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sleeper 
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 Posted: November 29 2005 at 20:04 |
 King of Loss wrote:
Gentle Ronnie wrote:
Wait, why is Germany so valued out of the blue? Didn't they suck the big one no less than two years ago? |
Yes, but that was against Brazil NOT IN EUROPE. I believe Brazil to be incapable in Europe.
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Dont count on it Flossy, they no longer rely on their wunderkind ( ) Ronaldo anymore and they will be a threat.
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King of Loss
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 19:47 |
Gentle Ronnie wrote:
Wait, why is Germany so valued out of the blue? Didn't they suck the big one no less than two years ago? |
Yes, but that was against Brazil NOT IN EUROPE. I believe Brazil to be incapable in Europe.
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 17:19 |
Brazil or Argentina will win the world cup. Beckham is overrated, and winning friendlies is totally meaningless, unless you believe in fairies.
Lichtenstein and San Marino in the final would be a real hoot.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 10:41 |
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^some people think that because their playing at home they'll pill the preverbial rabbit out of the hat, of course refs always go eith the home side, both England and Portugal have benefited from them at home.
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 14:12 |
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Wait, why is Germany so valued out of the blue? Didn't they suck the big one no less than two years ago?
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:12 |
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As a patriot I must say: POLAND!
Seriously I thik it could be: Brazil, Argentina or Holland
France: I doubt that Zidane, Henry and Makelele can play 7-8 good matches. Zidane has the wors season in his career so far.
England: Sorry, Poland and England are sworn enemies in football so I would gladly see the coming back home after 3 matches.
Spain, Germany & Italy: They have the players but they don`t have the team. That`s all I have to say.
Watch out for Czech, Ukraine and Poland (hopefully)!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 23:04 |
Netherlands, now or never, they always seem followed by bad luck, two times 2° place.
When they had an amazing team again, Van Basten had the definitive injury and Ruud Gullit fought with the coach.
If not, I'll vote for England, they have a solid team.
I don't want Brazil again, I love their football and country, but let's give the chance to other teams.
Iván
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 15:25 |
Watching just now Barcelona x Real Madrid... what to say about Ronaldo Assis, from Barcelona? MONSTER!!!
It is clear now that the famous 2nd goal against England in 2002 was not by chance. He wanted to put the ball that place out of Seaman's reach. He does anything he wants with the sphere.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 14:26 |
Trotsky wrote:
Atkingani wrote:
Hey Trotsky, are you a football commentator? 
You should come to Brazil and get a job on our TVs. Sport guys here know nothing about anything. 
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... thank Atkingani ... actually when I like something ... I go all out and do a lot of research ... and become a know-it-all ... but when I'm not interested ... I'm useless ... like cars ... I know almost nothing about cars ...
It is a funny situation being a journalist (especially a music specialist) ... because for most days over the last 10 years I've sat down for lunch with specialists on books, movies, tv and music ... and some of my other good friends are poitical, crime and sports journalists (I just came back from a birthday party three hours ago ... for my friend who is Malaysian editor of 4-4-2 magazine, in fact!) ...
Maybe a little over-analytical sometimes  ... and too much useless information I think
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I could easily solve the the cars problem, road or race, I know too much
Thinking about it your right that Scotland and Irland failing isnt a supprise but Scotland, like Uraguay are historically important to the game as members of the old guard.
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 12:23 |
Atkingani wrote:
Hey Trotsky, are you a football commentator?
You should come to Brazil and get a job on our TVs. Sport guys here know nothing about anything.
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... thank Atkingani ... actually when I like something ... I go all out and do a lot of research ... and become a know-it-all ... but when I'm not interested ... I'm useless ... like cars ... I know almost nothing about cars ...
It is a funny situation being a journalist (especially a music specialist) ... because for most days over the last 10 years I've sat down for lunch with specialists on books, movies, tv and music ... and some of my other good friends are poitical, crime and sports journalists (I just came back from a birthday party three hours ago ... for my friend who is Malaysian editor of 4-4-2 magazine, in fact!) ...
Maybe a little over-analytical sometimes ... and too much useless information I think
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 09:55 |
Hey Trotsky, are you a football commentator?
You should come to Brazil and get a job on our TVs. Sport guys here know nothing about anything.
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:40 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Atkingani wrote:
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China.
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I've noted the ones that i consider to be real suprises, I know turkey have been droping off steadily since the last world cup so they dont supprise but the highlighted ones really do.
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Not really surprising that Scotland and Ireland didn't make it imo. Scotland played in Norway's qualifying group and finished, um, fourth I think, behind Italy, Norway(who got playoff) and Slovenia.
I'd also say it's a bigger surprise Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey didn't make it than it is Scotland, Ireland and Austria missing out. |
Yes must say sleeper, I think Scotland in particular have experienced a dramatic drop in the quality of players at their disposal ... I said this in a previous thread when Northern Ireland beat England ... but in the 80s the Scottish team had a surplus of talent all over the park
Keepers: Jim Leighton, Alan Rough
Defenders: George Burley, Gordon McQueen, Arthur Albiston, Kenny Burns, Alan Hansen, Alex McLeish, Willie Miller
Midfielders: Graeme Sounness, John Wark, John Robertson, Peter Weir, Gordon Strachan
Strikers: Kenny Daglish, Steve Archibald, Alan Brazil, Joe Jordan, Mark McGhee, Frank McAvennie
This if offhand there were many more ...
The current team where Barry Ferguson and Darren Fletcher are the main hopes ... just isn't of the same quality ...
Of course for me the greatest absentee in this year's World Cup is the misfiring Colombian team ... it is my fervent belief that Colombia have the biggest pool of talent in South America after Brazil and Argentina
Historically of course, there's no doubt that 2-time World Cup winners and 14 time Copa America champions Uruguay are the most important asbsentees ...
A bit shocking that Nigeria, Cameroon and Senegal all failed on the last day ... but hopefully there's a big surprise coming from one of the West African newbies
As for my own country, Malaysia ... we are further away than ever ... in the 70s (when we had our best ever team) we beat Japan 9-0 ... the last time we played they beat us 5-0 ... 
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:29 |
sleeper wrote:
Atkingani wrote:
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China.
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I've noted the ones that i consider to be real suprises, I know turkey have been droping off steadily since the last world cup so they dont supprise but the highlighted ones really do. |
Not really surprising that Scotland and Ireland didn't make it imo. Scotland played in Norway's qualifying group and finished, um, fourth I think, behind Italy, Norway(who got playoff) and Slovenia.
I'd also say it's a bigger surprise Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey didn't make it than it is Scotland, Ireland and Austria missing out.
Edited by ColonelClaypool
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:55 |
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I believe that the next champion will be a team who already won a previous World Cup... but my prospects for 2010 are for a new champion. One candidate is USA.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:26 |
Atkingani wrote:
Confirmed list of the 32 national teams classified for the World Cup 2006:
Europe: Germany, England, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, The Netherlands, Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia-Montenegro. (14)
South America: Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador. (4)
North-Central America: USA, Mexico, Costa Rica, Trinidad-Tobago. (4)
Africa: Angola, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Tunisia. (5)
Asia: Japan, South Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia. (4)
Oceania: Australia. (1)
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Heres the one's that i think are suprising to see in the world cup, and yes considering Frances recent tonament history (not couning the fluky England match) they are a suprise to be in there, and thats not the African entry I would have expected.
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:23 |
Atkingani wrote:
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China.
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I've noted the ones that i consider to be real suprises, I know turkey have been droping off steadily since the last world cup so they dont supprise but the highlighted ones really do.
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 11:20 |
That was back then... now they stink 
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 11:05 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Atkingani wrote:
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China.
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I'm happy to see that Norway isn't mentioned in the 'notable absences', what a sh*tty team we have.. they have no business being in a championship.  |
Sorry! 
How could I forget the team that defeated Brazil in 1998 and turning from 0-1 to 2-1. The last time it had ocurred in a World Cup, with Brazil, was in 1950 against Uruguay.
Norway played well and had a good team then!
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 10:59 |
Atkingani wrote:
Notable absences: Greece (Euro-champion), Belgium, Turkey, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Uruguay, Colombia, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, South Africa, China. |
I'm happy to see that Norway isn't mentioned in the 'notable absences', what a sh*tty team we have.. they have no business being in a championship.
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With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 09:40 |
Lichtemstein will win in a shoo-in!!!!!
Waddya mean they're not in?!?! - friggin scandalous!!!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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