Hey! Non-Americans!

I know it's not a new topic, so my apologies for that. I am only recently returned to this forum, and Trump and American news have dominated much of my thought since well before the election (I am sadly out of touch with Canadian news, so boring and "normal" by comparison!).

Still, many others here seem eager enough to offer their (national) perceptions on the question asked....

If you have had enough of the topic, or see it as pointless repetition with nothing new to offer (much like many topics on a forum, such as "what is Prog" "is this Prog" "who is better" ) then please feel free to tune it out without getting too mad at me for my perceived failings.

Edited by Peter - January 23 2018 at 12:44

^ I second your Oy, David. Or is it Oy squared?

Argo2112 wrote: Well as an America I can say there are a lot of people here that can't believe he was elected. I still shake my head every time I turn on the new to see what knucklehead thing he did the day before. There are a lot of factors that contributed to this mess but I think one of the main factors is that the middle is dying in America. Being sane , reasonable &  moderate have gone out of style & now we are paying the price. I don't normally vote Republican but there were several people running on that side that would have been better choices then Trump. The problem is they weren't  as loud and obnoxious as Trump & America chose flash over substance this time around.Hopefully we can do better next time.

Yes, I think any of his Republican opponents would have been better--even (retch!) that hateful fundamentalist weasel Cruz. I especially admired Kasich for his integrity, class, and reasonableness.

Unfortunately, it seems that dignity, intelligence, and being informed on major issues are not currently winning traits for a presidential contender. Fear, flag waving populism, big lies and disinformation shouted repeatedly, a persecution complex, undermining of the press, the justice system and other checks on dictatorial power, hate and scapegoating of the "other," plus a good ol' appeal to the pocketbook held the greater allure for too many. Who needs a leader you can respect when a crass mega-rich conman promises to lower your taxes, and keep "them" from taking the low-paying service jobs you don't want?

I think the election result reveals a lot about the state of public education (his base seem to hate educated people, and not so much aspire to lift themselves up as drag others down) and basic values in the USA--not to mention the wacky, skewed, and corporately corrupted electoral system!

A Trump presidency is sad, surreal and scary. Even ten years ago, when I saw America as being so polarized along party, racial, religious, and regional lines that I predicted civil war in its future, I never would have thought it could get this bad, this fast.

Edited by Peter - January 23 2018 at 12:14

I live in the U.S. and a good number of us think he's a big, overgrown, whining baby, who is mentally unstable, narcissistic, gets a lot of his (mis)information from Fox & Friends and Alex Jones, spends more time watching TV and playing golf than actually doing his job (which might actually be a good thing), and most likely is a traitor. 

Im glad John Oliver, Trevor Noah, Steve Colbert, Bill Maher and Seth Mayers works as buffers and filters of whats happens. Colberts interprtation of Trump is very good.

Imimpressed by Colberts quick humor this past months, hes really showing hes comedic gifts on full.

^No, I am not a jealous at all. I am afraid he`s going to destroy this world. It´s not easy to be a president of any country, but I think there should be a persons with more sense, more will to make piece in this planet, also more understanding to the poor people.

It seems a lot of leftists are jealous of a powerful and dangerous man like him.

Trump is viewed in Finland quite the same way as you described.