![]() |
King Crimson Albums - Best To Worst |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <1 23456 9> |
Author | ||
King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16917 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
My favorite King Crimson Albums: 1. Islands 2. In the Court of the Crimson King Top Tier King Crimson Albums: 3. Lizard 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Red Mid-tier King Crimson Albums: 6. Starless Bible and Black 7. In the Wake of Poseidon 8. The Power to Believe 9. Discipline 10. The ConstruKction of Light King Crimson Albums I barely, if ever listen to: 11. THRAK 12. Three of a Perfect Pair 13. Beat
|
||
![]() |
||
Erenan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 12 2018 Location: San Diego, CA Status: Offline Points: 103 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Super important tier, mega amazing albums of eternal significance: 1. Red 2. In the Court of the Crimson King Excellent tier: 3. Discipline 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. THRAK 6. The ConstruKction of Light Very good albums that I almost love but which are meaningful to me for non-musical reasons: 7. Islands Very good albums that I almost love: 8. The Power to Believe 9. Three of a Perfect Pair 10. Beat Least favorites and probably should listen to them more:
11. Lizard 12. Starless and Bible Black 13. In the Wake of Poseidon Edited by Erenan - May 10 2019 at 15:21 |
||
![]() |
||
kaiofelipe ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 09 2019 Location: Rio de Janeiro Status: Offline Points: 7 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
1. In The Court of The Crimson King
2. Red 3. Discipline 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Starless and Bible Black 6. Lizard 7. In The Wake of Poseidon 8. Thrak 9. Three of a Perfect Pair 10. Beat P.S.: If the top 10 can include live albums, then Absent Lovers would be at #4, USA / Live at Asbury Park at #6 and The Night Watch at #9. Edited by kaiofelipe - May 09 2019 at 15:00 |
||
![]() |
||
Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Slight update for me five years later: Discipline LTIA Lizard Red The Power To Believe In The Court... Three Of A Perfect Pair SABB The ConstruKCtion... In The Wake... Islands Beat Thrak
|
||
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
||
![]() |
||
Chaser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 18 2018 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 1202 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Thanks for the clarification DTP. Yes, I understand you better now, and I'm more inclined to agree with you. I agree that the best albums are those that sound fresh and relevant regardless of when they were created. "Third" is an album that I rate very highly and it sounds as cutting edge today as it must have done when it was first released. I agree with you about 80's King Crimson. I regard "Discipline" as an essential classic and "Beat" as an excellent album also. "Lizard" can sound very 1970's in parts, especially a track like "Indoor Games", although I have to say that I saw KC live in London last year, and the medley from Lizard was extremely enjoyable, and hearing it live made it sound much fresher. "Red" from 1974 sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did when I first listened to it 30 years ago. The very best albums do indeed have a timeless quality to them |
||
Songs cast a light on you
|
||
![]() |
||
DreamTechPlus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 12 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 165 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I don't think I said that. I hope that wasn't the inference you got. I can only speak for me and my preferences, and that's how I phrase my sentiments about music. What I meant was that I prefer prog whose aesthetic, cultural and sonic choices veered more towards the contemporary, which need not necessarily be about strictly age. I would argue, for instance, that Third by Soft Machine for its awareness of jazz and funk and proclivity towards a more urban palette of music influences is a much more modernistic album than, say, the mysticism and fantastic imagery of a Flower Kings album, despite the latter being much more recent. Likewise, 80s King Crimson for its inclusion of new wave and funk rock styles in its palette as well as its narrative nods to Jack Kerouac, inner-city America and post-war malaise speaks to me more than the mythological imagery, medievalism and ersatz spirituality of the earlier albums. Give me Thela Hun Ginjeet over Lizard, if you please.
Edited by DreamTechPlus - April 22 2019 at 00:09 |
||
![]() |
||
kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9111 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I think the social consciousness of ITCOCK is still applicable today, expressed in songs like "I Talk to the Wind" and "Epitaph". Not that it needs to be judged in those terms mind you, but I think it holds up quite well in that regard
Edited by kenethlevine - April 21 2019 at 21:33 |
||
![]() |
||
Chaser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 18 2018 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 1202 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
[QUOTE=DreamTechPlus
I enjoy prog but, to be quite honest, I've fallen out of love with the type of bombast you might get out of symphonic prog records that you'd find on the Greg Lake era. I think a lot of ITCOTCK is a bit dated. Influential, important and essential yes. But just for me I find it in 2019 to be a bit... well... silly. I enjoy prog with more modernity (it is in the genre's name after all) and a more current political and social consciousness as well as a more pop and rhythm based aesthetic.
I'm not a big fan of Greg Lake, and I don't like ELP very much. I would agree that ELP can be bombastic at times. I don't think I would describe ITCOTCK as "bombastic" though. A bit dated in parts, yes, possibly, which is partly why I don't rate it as the best KC album or the best ever prog rock album (as some do), although it's importance in the history of prog rock cannot be denied. What I don't accept though, is the idea that modern prog rock should be rated more highly than classic prog rock, simply on account of it being newer. My understanding of the term "progressive" rock is that it was called "progressive" because the songs progressed from one point to another, rather like a symphony, as opposed to constantly repeating themselves, as in the standard verse/chorus pop song. in other words "progressive" doesn't imply some imperative to constantly "progress" into the future and reinvent the music, rather it simply describes the structural form of progressive rock music. Anyway, keep enjoying the music.
Edited by Chaser - April 21 2019 at 13:11 |
||
Songs cast a light on you
|
||
![]() |
||
DreamTechPlus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 12 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 165 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I enjoy prog but, to be quite honest, I've fallen out of love with the type of bombast you might get out of symphonic prog records that you'd find on the Greg Lake era. I think a lot of ITCOTCK is a bit dated. Influential, important and essential yes. But just for me I find it in 2019 to be a bit... well... silly. I enjoy prog with more modernity (it is in the genre's name after all) and a more current political and social consciousness as well as a more pop and rhythm based aesthetic.
Edited by DreamTechPlus - April 21 2019 at 06:19 |
||
![]() |
||
Chaser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 18 2018 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 1202 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Interesting! TOAPP as the second best KC album and ITCOTCK as the second worst. I guess everyone's taste is different, but I think your ranking would be considered "non-standard". I agree with you that Discipline is a great album though, and great to see Beat ranked higher than some others on this site would rank it.
|
||
Songs cast a light on you
|
||
![]() |
||
DreamTechPlus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 12 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 165 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon
|
||
![]() |
||
jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I haven't finished to listen and evaluate (and write the reviews on) KC discography.
At the moment: FIVE STARS 1. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9,5/10) 2. Red (9+/10) 3. Islands (9/10) ------- FOUR AND A HALF STARS 4. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (9-/10) 5. Lizard (9-/10) ------ FOUR STARS 6. The Power To Believe (8,5/10) 7. Starless And Bible Black (8+/10) 8. Beat (8+/10) ----- THREE STARS 9. Discipline (8-/10) 10. In The Wake Of Poseidon (7,5/10) ----- TWO STARS 11. Three of a Perfect Pair (7-/10) 12. THRAK (6,5/10) 13. The ConstruKction Of Light ?? Edited by jamesbaldwin - April 14 2019 at 16:41 |
||
Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
|
||
![]() |
||
AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19020 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I don't know the later ones so I'm only going to do the ones I'm familiar with(70's and 80's). Ranked from favorite to least favorite:
LTIA ITCOTCK ITWOP Red Lizard SABB Discipline TOAPP Islands Beat |
||
![]() |
||
Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15216 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Discipline Red Beat Three of a Perfect Pair Lizard Larks' Tongues in Aspic Thrak In the Court of the Crimson King Starless and Bible Black The Power to Believe In the Wake of Poseidon Islands The ConstruKCtion of Light Actually they're all very good, down to the last rank. What I really don't like is Earthbound, but that's live.
Edited by Lewian - April 14 2019 at 09:51 |
||
![]() |
||
Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1636 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
![]() |
||
Ozexpat ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 57 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
1. Red 2. Larks Tongues In Aspic 3. Discipline 4. Starless & Bible Black 5. In the Court 6. Lizard 7. Islands 8. THRAK = the ConstruKction Of Light = the Power to Believe = Beat = Three of a Perfect Pair.
|
||
And for a moment when our world had filled the skies, Magic turned our eyes,
To feast on the treasure set for our strange device |
||
![]() |
||
Whamdaddy ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 04 2019 Location: WIsconsin Status: Offline Points: 42 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Red
Lizards Islands court Larks Poisiden then they all kinda jumble together
Edited by Whamdaddy - April 09 2019 at 09:19 |
||
The Wham Daddy
|
||
![]() |
||
richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29681 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Red Power To Believe ITCHYCOCK The other seventies albums Eighties stuff |
||
![]() |
||
Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Just going with the ones I own.
LTIA Starless & Bible Black Red Discipline ITCOTCK I've heard bits & pieces from others but not enough to rank them against these. |
||
![]() |
||
miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3629 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Larks' Tongues In Aspic 10/10
In The Court Of The Crimson King 10/10 Red 10/10 Starless And Bible Black 10/10 Lizard 8.5/10 Discipline 8/10 Islands 7.5/10 In The Wake Of Poseidon 7/10 Thrak 7/10 Three Of A Perfect Pair 6.5/10 The Power To Believe 6/10 A Scarcity Of Miracles 6/10 The ConstruKction Of Light 5.5/10 Beat 4/10
|
||
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <1 23456 9> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |