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My favorite King Crimson Albums:
1. Islands 
2. In the Court of the Crimson King

Top Tier King Crimson Albums:
3. Lizard
4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
5. Red

Mid-tier King Crimson Albums:
6. Starless Bible and Black
7. In the Wake of Poseidon
8. The Power to Believe
9. Discipline
10. The ConstruKction of Light

King Crimson Albums I barely, if ever listen to:
11. THRAK
12. Three of a Perfect Pair
13. Beat
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Super important tier, mega amazing albums of eternal significance:
1. Red
2. In the Court of the Crimson King
 
Excellent tier:
3. Discipline
4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
5. THRAK
6. The ConstruKction of Light
 
Very good albums that I almost love but which are meaningful to me for non-musical reasons:
7. Islands
 
Very good albums that I almost love:
8. The Power to Believe
9. Three of a Perfect Pair
10. Beat
 
Least favorites and probably should listen to them more:
11. Lizard
12. Starless and Bible Black
13. In the Wake of Poseidon


Edited by Erenan - May 10 2019 at 15:21
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1. In The Court of The Crimson King
2. Red
3. Discipline
4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
5. Starless and Bible Black
6. Lizard
7. In The Wake of Poseidon
8. Thrak
9. Three of a Perfect Pair
10. Beat

P.S.: If the top 10 can include live albums, then Absent Lovers would be at #4, USA / Live at Asbury Park at #6 and The Night Watch at #9.



Edited by kaiofelipe - May 09 2019 at 15:00
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Discipline
LTIA
Lizard
The Power To Believe
Red
In The Court...
Three Of A Perfect Pair
In The Wake...
SABB
The ConstruKction...
Islands
Thrak
Beat
 
Slight update for me five years later:
 
Discipline
LTIA
Lizard
Red
The Power To Believe
In The Court...
Three Of A Perfect Pair
SABB
The ConstruKCtion...
In The Wake...
Islands
Beat
Thrak
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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

What I don't accept though, is the idea that modern prog rock should be rated more highly than classic prog rock, simply on account of it being newer.

I don't think I said that. I hope that wasn't the inference you got. I can only speak for me and my preferences, and that's how I phrase my sentiments about music.

What I meant was that I prefer prog whose aesthetic, cultural and sonic choices veered more towards the contemporary, which need not necessarily be about strictly age.

I would argue, for instance, that Third by Soft Machine for its awareness of jazz and funk and proclivity towards a more urban palette of music influences is a much more modernistic album than, say, the mysticism and fantastic imagery of a Flower Kings album, despite the latter being much more recent.

Likewise, 80s King Crimson for its inclusion of new wave and funk rock styles in its palette as well as its narrative nods to Jack Kerouac, inner-city America and post-war malaise speaks to me more than the mythological imagery, medievalism and ersatz spirituality of the earlier albums. Give me Thela Hun Ginjeet over Lizard, if you please.
 
Thanks for the clarification DTP.  Yes, I understand you better now, and I'm more inclined to agree with you.  I agree that the best albums are those that sound fresh and relevant regardless of when they were created.
 
"Third" is an album that I rate very highly and it sounds as cutting edge today as it must have done when it was first released.
 
I agree with you about 80's King Crimson.  I regard "Discipline" as an essential classic and "Beat" as an excellent album also.
 
"Lizard" can sound very 1970's in parts, especially a track like "Indoor Games", although I have to say that I saw KC live in London last year, and the medley from Lizard was extremely enjoyable, and hearing it live made it sound much fresher.
 
"Red" from 1974 sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did when I first listened to it 30 years ago.
 
The very best albums do indeed have a timeless quality to them
 
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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

What I don't accept though, is the idea that modern prog rock should be rated more highly than classic prog rock, simply on account of it being newer.

I don't think I said that. I hope that wasn't the inference you got. I can only speak for me and my preferences, and that's how I phrase my sentiments about music.

What I meant was that I prefer prog whose aesthetic, cultural and sonic choices veered more towards the contemporary, which need not necessarily be about strictly age.

I would argue, for instance, that Third by Soft Machine for its awareness of jazz and funk and proclivity towards a more urban palette of music influences is a much more modernistic album than, say, the mysticism and fantastic imagery of a Flower Kings album, despite the latter being much more recent.

Likewise, 80s King Crimson for its inclusion of new wave and funk rock styles in its palette as well as its narrative nods to Jack Kerouac, inner-city America and post-war malaise speaks to me more than the mythological imagery, medievalism and ersatz spirituality of the earlier albums. Give me Thela Hun Ginjeet over Lizard, if you please.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2019 at 21:33
I think the social consciousness of ITCOCK is still applicable today, expressed in songs like "I Talk to the Wind" and "Epitaph".  Not that it needs to be judged in those terms mind you, but I think it holds up quite well in that regard

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I enjoy prog but, to be quite honest, I've fallen out of love with the type of bombast you might get out of symphonic prog records that you'd find on the Greg Lake era. I think a lot of ITCOTCK is a bit dated. Influential, important and essential yes. But just for me I find it in 2019 to be a bit... well... silly.

I enjoy prog with more modernity (it is in the genre's name after all) and a more current political and social consciousness as well as a more pop and rhythm based aesthetic.
 
 
I'm not a big fan of Greg Lake, and I don't like ELP very much.  I would agree that ELP can be bombastic at times.
 
I don't think I would describe ITCOTCK as "bombastic" though.  A bit dated in parts, yes, possibly, which is partly why I don't rate it as the best KC album or the best ever prog rock album (as some do), although it's importance in the history of prog rock cannot be denied.
 
What I don't accept though, is the idea that modern prog rock should be rated more highly than classic prog rock, simply on account of it being newer.
 
My understanding of the term "progressive" rock is that it was called "progressive" because the songs progressed from one point to another, rather like a symphony, as opposed to constantly repeating themselves, as in the standard verse/chorus pop song.
 
in other words "progressive" doesn't imply some imperative to constantly "progress" into the future and reinvent the music, rather it simply describes the structural form of progressive rock music.
 
Anyway, keep enjoying the music.


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Originally posted by Chaser Chaser wrote:

Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon
 
Interesting!  TOAPP as the second best KC album and ITCOTCK as the second worst.
I guess everyone's taste is different, but I think your ranking would be considered "non-standard".
I agree with you that Discipline is a great album though, and great to see Beat ranked higher than some others on this site would rank it.

I enjoy prog but, to be quite honest, I've fallen out of love with the type of bombast you might get out of symphonic prog records that you'd find on the Greg Lake era. I think a lot of ITCOTCK is a bit dated. Influential, important and essential yes. But just for me I find it in 2019 to be a bit... well... silly.

I enjoy prog with more modernity (it is in the genre's name after all) and a more current political and social consciousness as well as a more pop and rhythm based aesthetic.


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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon
 
Interesting!  TOAPP as the second best KC album and ITCOTCK as the second worst.
I guess everyone's taste is different, but I think your ranking would be considered "non-standard".
I agree with you that Discipline is a great album though, and great to see Beat ranked higher than some others on this site would rank it.
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Discipline > Three of a Perfect Pair > Red > Beat > The Power to Believe > Starless and Bible Black > The ConstruKction of Light > Larks' Tongues in Aspic > Lizard > Islands > In the Court of the Crimson King > In the Wake of Poseidon
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I haven't finished to listen and evaluate (and write the reviews on) KC discography.

At the moment:

FIVE STARS
1. In The Court Of The Crimson King (9,5/10)
2. Red (9+/10)
3. Islands (9/10)
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FOUR AND A HALF STARS
4. Larks' Tongues In Aspic (9-/10)
5. Lizard (9-/10)
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FOUR STARS
6. The Power To Believe (8,5/10)
7. Starless And Bible Black (8+/10)
8. Beat (8+/10)
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THREE STARS
9. Discipline (8-/10)
10. In The Wake Of Poseidon (7,5/10)
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TWO STARS
11. Three of a Perfect Pair (7-/10)
12. THRAK (6,5/10)
13. The ConstruKction Of Light ??


Edited by jamesbaldwin - April 14 2019 at 16:41
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I don't know the later ones so I'm only going to do the ones I'm familiar with(70's and 80's). Ranked from favorite to least favorite:

LTIA
ITCOTCK
ITWOP
Red
Lizard
SABB
Discipline
TOAPP
Islands
Beat


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Discipline
Red
Beat
Three of a Perfect Pair
Lizard
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Thrak
In the Court of the Crimson King
Starless and Bible Black
The Power to Believe
In the Wake of Poseidon
Islands
The ConstruKCtion of Light

Actually they're all very good, down to the last rank. What I really don't like is Earthbound, but that's live.


Edited by Lewian - April 14 2019 at 09:51
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1. Red
2. Larks Tongues In Aspic
3. Discipline
4. Starless & Bible Black
5. In the Court
6. Lizard
7. Islands
8. THRAK = the ConstruKction Of Light = the Power to Believe = Beat = Three of a Perfect Pair.
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Red
Lizards
Islands
court
Larks
Poisiden

then they all kinda jumble together


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Red
Power To Believe
ITCHYCOCK
The other seventies albums
Eighties stuff


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Just going with the ones I own.
  LTIA
  Starless & Bible Black
  Red
  Discipline
  ITCOTCK

I've heard bits & pieces from others but not enough to rank them against these. 

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Larks' Tongues In Aspic 10/10
In The Court Of The Crimson King 10/10
Red 10/10
Starless And Bible Black 10/10
Lizard 8.5/10
Discipline 8/10
Islands 7.5/10
In The Wake Of Poseidon 7/10
Thrak 7/10
Three Of A Perfect Pair 6.5/10
The Power To Believe 6/10
A Scarcity Of Miracles 6/10
The ConstruKction Of Light 5.5/10
Beat 4/10
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