Would You Consider Dating A Transsexual?

Can't say I would.

I think you're right, but it's a subconsious choice. Earlier you seemed to be suggesting that some transsexuals are literally thinking "I'm going to change my gender so people pay more attention to me" which seemed absurd. I'm skeptical about such things being inborn but I also don't think people go "FROM NOW I SHALL WISH I WAS THE OTHER GENDER". Like so many other things about us, it's just something that builds up without you even knowing about it, so it probably genuinely seems like you were born that way.

Well what I meant and should have said if I was being careful is that you've read something about it.

Slarti: You clearly know some TS people.

colorofmoney91 wrote: I guess if I inadvertently fall in love with a transsexual, then sure, I might go along with, though I admit that it would probably be strange to get my head around. I personally would prefer my lover to not have a penis, but I'd also imagine that sexual reassignment surgery looks like an absolute train wreck down there.

I'd suspect the surgery has gotten better over the years, but no matter how skilled the surgeon you can't make 8000 erotogenic nerve endings out of 3500.

colorofmoney91 wrote: RoyFairbank wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: Biology has nothing to do with it dude. ... They were born like that. You can't choose biology, nor can you choose your real sexual preferences There are gay animals, they don't dress up as the opposite gender and try to pass themselves up as the ideal of the opposite gender. How would a wild animal dress up as the opposite gender? Aren't both genders of any species of wild animal generally naked?

It can be reduced to behavior, I was being a bit rhetorical. They don't become the other gender, start doing things the other gender does.

Guldbamsen wrote: Biology has nothing to do with it dude. ... They were born like that. You can't choose biology, nor can you choose your real sexual preferences

Yes that's right studio audience, the contradiction was in the "its not biology, but it is."

Identity is a social construction

the little dresses and makeup girls wear is a social construction.

for a guy, wanting to be the abstract ideal of a "girl" is a social construction

These things don't exist in genes.

Sexual preference, perhaps does, but that doesn't involve SOCIAL IDENTITY.

There are gay animals, they don't dress up as the opposite gender and try to pass themselves up as the ideal of the opposite gender.

They are regular chromosome-gendered goats, chimpanzees, etc. humping the same gendered animal. The identity games don't enter into it, and it doesn't for a good deal (the majority?) of gay humans as well.






Edited by RoyFairbank - June 21 2012 at 17:57

It depends how much we like eachother. But It kinda creeps me out, to be honest. But I haven't ever dated someone and probobly won't for a long time, so I still have a long time to descide on such matters.

Textbook wrote: Zomby: Actually, I'm the same. In fact there's a point where a woman becomes too attractive and sort of porn star looking where it turns me off, like they try too hard to look great, spend too much time on it so it, emphasise looks too much. I hate the cosmetic industry too.

I agree with this sentiment completely.  Too much makeup, facelifts, boob jobs, etc. are big turn-offs for me. 

I'm not here to spew any hate ... I have no hatred for anyone based on gender preference, however I like real, straight women. There's nothing ignorant about that. I just prefer natural beauty ... I don't even like women to wear makeup.