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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:26
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I've noticed the tendency to sympathize with Moss and for the life of me don't understand it.  Arrogant, cocky, lazy, puts forth no extra effort to make a play.  He doesn't set a good example for younger players, he bitches and moans constantly (at least he did in MN).   Why feel bad for a guy like that?  Would you want to work with a guy like that?  Have a co-worker who acts like that? 

I actually don't think he's even close to the best.  He has some natural talent but his attitude has diminished what he could have been.  I think he could have been great had he pushed himself throughout his career. 




Oh and totally I get why someone would hate him. IDK man, not like I love him just...I'm neutralLOL and all you say is fair but dude, he's a receiver Wink the cockiest, laziest sonsofbitches there are. I think it was Ron Jaworski (IDK I forget) that defended him saying most receivers take plays off, often a lot of times. And as for bitching and moaning dude... I wish it wasn't so but look at 90% of playersCry
I guess I just don't see why he seems singled out, especially with people I'd say are far worse. I dont see what warrants it. Must be because of his good career.

Regardless he's not the best ever, for sure. Hell TO is ahead of him with yards and Moss just is ahead with TDs despite playing 2 full seasons more. Not that I'm really a huge fan of those stats, but its still something. And a little more accurate than passing stats.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 19:19
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I don't blame MOM for hating the Ravens. If you live in Pittsburgh it is expected. along with hating these teams too..........

Arizona Cardinals 
Atlanta Falcons 
Baltimore Ravens 
Buffalo Bills 
Carolina Panthers 
Chicago Bears 
Cincinnati Bengals 
Cleveland Browns 
Dallas Cowboys 
Denver Broncos 
Detroit Lions 
Green Bay Packers 
Houston Texans 
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New York Giants 
New York Jets 
Oakland Raiders 
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San Francisco 49ers 
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers 
Tennessee Titans 
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Yeah  but you admit, and I gave Steelers fans props for that. They generally admit they hate all teams not Pittsburgh. I dont buy their excuses....but I appreciate the honesty!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 18:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 17:15
I don't blame MOM for hating the Ravens. If you live in Pittsburgh it is expected. along with hating these teams too..........

Arizona Cardinals 
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Minnesota Vikings 
New England Patriots 
New Orleans Saints 
New York Giants 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 17:05
I've noticed the tendency to sympathize with Moss and for the life of me don't understand it.  Arrogant, cocky, lazy, puts forth no extra effort to make a play.  He doesn't set a good example for younger players, he bitches and moans constantly (at least he did in MN).   Why feel bad for a guy like that?  Would you want to work with a guy like that?  Have a co-worker who acts like that? 

I actually don't think he's even close to the best.  He has some natural talent but his attitude has diminished what he could have been.  I think he could have been great had he pushed himself throughout his career. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 16:52
I think the Alex Smith talk was purely to kill time.

Well good season and good SB.

Now onto 2013!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 16:45
Yeah, we all knew he was an ass but he couldn't even lose gracefully to his brother?
Sheesh.

To be fair, Randy Moss is probably one of the best receivers ever, THE best?? Obviously a little silly but what can ya expect? Few people will say, yeah I'm a top 10, maybe 5 but man I aint the best. Kudos to whoever does but that'll be a rare dayLOL I do feel a little bad for him, actuallyShocked
Far as I know, not really a bad guy...maybe lazy and cocky but esp at his position...it's not that terrible. He has been a great receiver, played on several great teams and has now fallen just short of 2 super bowls. I kinda like a veteran to finally get one (unless I hate them).

Also several people on the radio this morning echoed the point I made last night: it was a very physical game, and the refs let them play. Holding on both sides, lots of rough play, and few calls.
The irony we moan about they "over officiate" and how the game has lost its way...MoM is the biggest wanter of the "good ol days" yet when we had that game people gripeLOL   And still it was't terribly defensive when you think about it. 
I am naturally excluding MoM since he only sees the bad calls that benefits the Ravens...but a lot of people seem peeved. Do you want the 70s or not people!?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 16:07
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

It was nice to see the arrogant prick Randy Moss (self proclaimed greatest receiver in NFL history) go down without getting a ring.  Also nice to see Jerry Rice didn't let him get away with his comments about being the greatest.....




Randy who, Moss? are you sure, didn't see him in the first half,  he was the greatest disappointment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 15:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 15:04
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

It was nice to see the arrogant prick Randy Moss (self proclaimed greatest receiver in NFL history) go down without getting a ring.  Also nice to see Jerry Rice didn't let him get away with his comments about being the greatest.....




Haha. It's funny...the only reason I would have been happy if the 9ers won would have been that Moss finally got a ring.


Though yes...his great receiver ever comment was hilarious. But I don't expect anything less from him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 15:01
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VW clearly had the best commercial


I don't recall a vw commercial off the top of my head. Description?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 14:39

It was nice to see the arrogant prick Randy Moss (self proclaimed greatest receiver in NFL history) go down without getting a ring.  Also nice to see Jerry Rice didn't let him get away with his comments about being the greatest.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 14:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 13:37
It was kind of funny how the highly-paid "experts" felt that the 49ers should put in Alex Smith after the blackout since Kapernick was too young to know how to manage the clock and wouldn't be able to get the 49ers back into the game.  Thanks to a bad punt/good punt return and a lost fumble Kapernick and the 49ers pretty much closed that gap in mere minutes. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 13:30
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Wanted to nominate Chris Culliver for anti-MVP.
Then you mean LVP.

You could go with that, but "least valuable" is really too kind of a description for his play.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 12:29
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Wanted to nominate Chris Culliver for anti-MVP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 11:24
The ravens were a team on the decline going into and during this season and, despite the travesty to all that is football that just happened, are a declining team going into next season.  They had a miracle run, rallying around their retiring leader run, and aided by the worst defensive play in the history of football (still no excuse for Denver not fair catching Flacco's game ending punt).  This was a team at the end of it's run, not the beginning.  Don't see any way in which they have a winning record next year.  As for the Bungles, they have the young tools on offense and a solid defensive core.  Their problem is the head coach.  If they canned Marvin Lewis I could see them having a very bright future.  After what just happened I'm going to have trouble taking the nfl as anything but a joke, though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 10:35
Interesting comments from Ray Rice after the game. But there might be some validity to it, especially since it looks like the Steelers might need to start re-building their defense.

*Waits for MoM to come in and slam it as a crackpot theory and/or some comment about their current coaching staff isn't capable of making it happen* Tongue

Seriously though, I think the biggest question mark for Dalton is the same one I had for Flacco: Can he finally take the next step in terms of leading his team not just deep in the playoffs, but to a SB?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 09:05
Normally a Steelers fan like myself wouldn't be cheering for Baltimore but i was. There are certain NFL teams i have disliked for years and the Niners are one of them, and besides i've always respected the Ravens for their style of play. It was the Ravens manager who said he builds his team to beat the Steelers 'cause if they can't they won't likely get out of their division come playoff time.
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