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ProgMetaller2112 
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 Posted: January 10 2013 at 00:15 |
 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
that's your last name unless you forgot
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He never is, what is that supposed to mean, I speak straight from the heart
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - January 10 2013 at 00:18
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 10 2013 at 00:14 |
that's your last name unless you forgot
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 10 2013 at 00:01 |
bytor2112 wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Pf! ... Nobody likes KC. |
that's not arrogance, Gaga, I wouldn't take advice from someone who gave Relayer 3 stars 
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Are you being serious right now? |
He never is. Remember him and I had this one conversation that wound up its own a... well, the one that ultimately reached its cul-de-sac? Well, ... .
BTW, I don't like the Gaga. Never liked her, and probably never will.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 10 2013 at 00:02
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Kati
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 23:58 |
Oh wow no doubt, listen to this, no comparison really, to the court of the crimson KIIIIIINNNGGGGGG aaahhhh aaah ahhhh  In The Court Of The Crimson King - King Crimson [HQ Sound] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNantlznCA  
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 23:40 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Pf! ... Nobody likes KC. |
that's not arrogance, Gaga, I wouldn't take advice from someone who gave Relayer 3 stars
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Are you being serious right now?
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ProgMetaller2112
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Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 23:28 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:34 |
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more . You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too  |
what do u mean by that , does it mean you think I'm joking around
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ProgMetaller2112, if you refer to me, what do you think I mean?? |
I honestly don't know???
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OK I said really bad things about you, but sst tho' |
you did, where
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Kati
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Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
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Points: 6253
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:33 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too |
what do u mean by that, does it mean you think I'm joking around
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ProgMetaller2112, if you refer to me, what do you think I mean?? |
I honestly don't know???
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OK I said really bad things about you, but sst tho'
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ProgMetaller2112
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Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:32 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Pf! ... Nobody likes KC. |
that's not arrogance, Gaga, I wouldn't take advice from someone who gave Relayer 3 stars
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Points: 3150
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:23 |
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too |
what do u mean by that, does it mean you think I'm joking around
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ProgMetaller2112, if you refer to me, what do you think I mean?? |
I honestly don't know???
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Kati
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:22 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too |
what do u mean by that, does it mean you think I'm joking around
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ProgMetaller2112, if you refer to me, what do you think I mean??
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Kati
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Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:11 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Sumdeus wrote:
Why are you trying to prove Rush is a better band than King Crimson? Quite different bands that shouldn't really be compared.
and as far as the ratings on this site, I will bring up the accessibility thing because that's simply the main reason. Rush is much more well known so there would be a lot more people going to rate their albums and they tend to have very die-hard fanatic listeners.
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Really??? I'm trying to prove that, I'm just giving you guys food for thought but you guys don't even take it into consideration, that's all
they tend to have very die-hard fanatic listeners. there's a reason for this it's called the music
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:09 |
Kati wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too |
what do u mean by that , does it mean you think I'm joking around
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Kati
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Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
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Points: 6253
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:05 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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I like ProgMetaller2112 a lot, he is nice and has a great sense of humor/humour too
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ProgMetaller2112
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Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:03 |
Sumdeus wrote:
Why are you trying to prove Rush is a better band than King Crimson? Quite different bands that shouldn't really be compared.
and as far as the ratings on this site, I will bring up the accessibility thing because that's simply the main reason. Rush is much more well known so there would be a lot more people going to rate their albums and they tend to have very die-hard fanatic listeners.
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Really??? I'm trying to prove that, I'm just giving you guys food for thought but you guys don't even take it into consideration, that's all they tend to have very die-hard fanatic listeners. there's a reason for this it's called the music
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Points: 3150
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 22:00 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog. |
Being an a$$hole again? Arrogance, Inconsiderability, Disrespect, Shoot-me-f$&king-dead. |
How Am I being an a**hole again, please elaborate, I never said anything to insult anyone here, it's all in your guys heads, I'm just pointing out what I've seen in the reviews
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 21:58 |
mister nobody wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I just made a major discovery about the Rush vs. King Crimson battle here on PA, I found that after the first 2 Rush albums(which don't really get much love here on PA) even though I find them excellent releases but not 5 stars by any stretch. The majority of people here on PA like Rush's music more. You guys might say oh it's because they're more accessible(I don't think that that matters because Prog Rock is still pretty darn complex and the average person doesn't understand it) but the people's overall opinion matters most and they have rated Rush music a little bit better. Rush's music can stand with any King Crimson record, believe that
"Hold that red star emblem so proudly high in hand"
Don't say that "ohh" King Crimson is not accessible, that's bullsh*t because in the end it's all Prog.
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Even if all you said were true, it doesn't stop me or anyone else from liking King Crimson more, and in the end it doesn't mean Rush is objectively better than King Crimson (as you claim). And also, there cannot be objectivity in music. Saying that Rush is as (in)accessible as King Crimson because "it's all prog, and therefore inaccessible, and the average person can't get it" is both elitist (you imply that everyone who listens to prog is above average, thus you are above average) and quite simply stupid (compare Marillion to Gentle Giant, for example, or Genesis to Kayo Dot). I'm sorry, I've tried to make sense of what you're saying, but you are very headstrong. Just stop, please. You like Rush more than King Crimson, okay. You don't have to shove it up everybody's nose. |
I never said any of that, I never said Rush's music was better and I never want to convert anyone, I'm just pointing out what I've seen from the reviews on PA. what I meant to say about the average person is that this music is not for the casual listener
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 21:53 |
Hi Sonia, In The Court is an absolute joke when it comes to receiving a high rating on this site, it's groundbreaking for sure but that alone doesn't automatically make it a 5 star album or great album because it's not  , Red is just average and Discipline is just King Crimson copying the Talking Heads nothing new or inventive, I still like you though My knowleadge of Rush albums/music is limited , this is key
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 11:38 |
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Kirillov
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Posted: January 09 2013 at 07:32 |
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King Crimson gets my vote
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