Rush vs King Crimson
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Topic: Rush vs King Crimson
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Subject: Rush vs King Crimson
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 09:22
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Once again, two random but popular Prog bands, Which do you prefer? -------------  
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 09:38
| KC, easily. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 09:42
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Rush is good. But the King is the King. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 09:48
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Rush by miles.
I listen to Rush every day; I lost interest in KC around 1970. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:03
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Rush for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:05
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Is there a reason for the poll? I haven't seen anyone attempt to compare the two bands... ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:17
| King Crimson for me. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:19
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Ding Dong and Fripp ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:21
King Crimson for me. Although they're as old as me, my interest in them has never been lost! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Hercules wrote:Posted By: Catalani
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:32
| The "debut" band of prog, KC. |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:35
| I really, really don't like King Crimson |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:39
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King Crimson by miles. Rush never grabbed me the way Crim did.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 10:46
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These are two bands that have only made material in the '80s that I enjoy. Out of both of their '80s material, I'll have to go with Rush. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 11:22
I'll vote Rush. I'm more of a Rush fanboy, than a KC fanboy.. 
Nevertheless, King Crimson are superb! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 11:53
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Rush for me. I dig a lot of KC too though.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 12:51
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Rush have a sentimental aspect to them that no other band will be able to achieve. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 12:54
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I have lots of respect for Rush but don't care for them personally. KC on the other hand is one of the greatest rock bands ever imo.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 13:24
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I love both of them at their heights, but Rush, to me, have been the far more consistent over the years. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 13:30
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Kin Crimson is more highly rated in my own list of faves, but I must admit I listen to Rush more frequently. A little easier on the ears. I bet you never thought you'd hear Rush described that way! Besides, the missus doesn't like King Crimson much. My vote went to the Crims. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 13:46
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I’m sorry, but Geddy Lee’s voice makes it almost impossible for me to listen to Rush. KC on the other hand is one of my three favourite bands.
------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 13:55
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No reason for me to really reply since anyone can tell from my username my answer, but take this as my spraypainting of Kilroy Was Here on the wall. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 13:59
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 15:52
| This is like comparing caviar with fish cakes---both can be good if you're in the mood. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 16:19
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Voted for Rush for their 2nd period (from A Farewell to Kings to Moving Pictures) albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 16:21
Can't get into anything else?  ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 16:30
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King Crimson because they never stay the same, they always change and evolve. I love Rush, but KC is just much more important to the genre in general. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: MattGuitat
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 16:52
I'm surprised Crimzo isn't annihilating Rush I vote Rush.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 17:12
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Rush has five star albums. King Crimson does not.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 17:14
Styx isn't an option.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 17:15
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 17:15
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Rush is good but KC is one of my all time favorite bands. IM(not so)HO the comparison is ridiculous. One is pretty much a hard rock band that has some progressiveness and the other defines what is prog rock  KC is more....creative and interesting, and changed it up often. Rush is a good listen. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 17:44
| King Crimson easily. Rush blows. |
Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 18:08
I'm going to whiff on this poll.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:05
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I really thought KC would be winning this poll by a much wider margin. I do like what I've heard of Rush, but I would say KC has reached higher peaks than Rush.
Anyone can think of at least one Rush song that could win a poll against "Starless"? |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:08
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Cyngus X-2 :D ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:58
What?????????? In my opinion KC has five star albums ITCOCK Red Larks Tongues in Aspic Lizard Discipline Rush has too I like and enjoy a lot Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, A farewell to Kings, Permanet waves |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 20:00
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In the Court of the Crimson King isn't a 5* album. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 20:17
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As difficult a decision as this might be it really is not that difficult for me. Rush have created something very special over the past 35 years and it is only now that it is becoming very evident the brilliance that is Rush. KC brilliance lasted for a couple albums after the big one and then it kinda died off, albeit the importance of that one album is very evident, the influence is massive for sure. Even Rush know it as they play KC before their shows......... But Rush have done so much more and their influence continues to grow and you can see it in the band members that all they want to do is keep going, looking for that next great performance and recording. The Rush train is still rolling..........no sign of stopping either. I think the day Rush hang it up will have a much bigger reaction/impact as compared to KC not recording anymore. Rush -------------   
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:11
Agree strongly.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:12
Er, if fanboys could vote Geddy the best rock keyboardist, they would vote Main Monkey Business over Starless. 'We' have no chance.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:15
Not really...the Wetton lineup happened during that post-couple of albums phase and then Discipline with a changed lineup. If anything, I'd take LTIA, Red and Discipline over ITCOTCK which is influential but not as enjoyable as these.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 22:37
Yeah even as huge KC fan I have to say it's like a 3ish. However, Red alone is better than anything Rush has made combined. OK that's extreme, but Ill stick with it :D |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 22:59
Interesting---I think generally they are not easy on the ears---I more admire lot's of their material and recognize their importance---and really followed them because I'm a Bruford fanboy---listened more to their Discipline period than any other.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 14 2011 at 23:08
| ^^^ I think ExittheLemming said this once and probably addressed to the same member. That if you don't like KC, what it really means is you probably haven't found that side of them that you could like. They are unlike most other prog rock bands, at least the big names, in that they have straddled such a long span of time and adapted to the musical trends in each and not just carried on with their style, oblivious to developments. They have also experimented with so many approaches, be it composition, or the marriage of composition and improvisation on LTIA-Red, or smart, mobile rock if it could be called that on Discipline. So on and so forth. It is difficult even for a KC fan to enjoy all of their work, such is their diversity but there is really no such thing as a point where you may get off with KC. |
Posted By: TrevRockOne
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 01:07
| Totally different beast -- and I love both -- but Rush has brought me more pleasure over the years. |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 02:48
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I love Rush period from 2112 to, say, Signals. After this my interest to their music slowly evaporated. They are great but I hardly listen to them in these days. KC on the other hand has still something interesting one could look for in their music. Even the post 80's period which I didn't like too much started growing in me. All in all, ten or more years ago would have won Rush, today I have to go with KC. ------------- 
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 06:43
| Interesting poll. While I do enjoy a lot of KC, I can't listen to them for long periods, where Rush, maybe with the exception of Snakes and Arrows, I can listen to anytime and for a long time. Never get tired of them. |
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 07:57
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I didn't really think this poll was all that random, as both had three distinct "classic" periods. Rush- Hard Rock/Symphonic/synth-driven KC- Symphonic/Proto-Metal?/rhythm-based I had a tough time here, but it came to: Could I name a great (for me) album from each period? It was then I voted for King Crimson. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 09:12
For me, yes. I'll list some:
The Pass
YYZ (and just about every other track on Moving Pictures. actually)
Red Barchetta
La Villa Strangiato
Bastille Day
Something for Nothing
Jacob's Ladder.....
I could go on for some time.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 09:45
Seems like you are trying very hard to make people understand why they may not like KC.......or maybe why they should like KC?
 I only own In the Court on vinyl and will eventually get the remastered vinyl version, Santa knows, its a wonderful album. I don't own any other KC albums just because what I have listened to does not interest me, its just OK, but not enough to spend money on. Maybe I will see if my local record store has used vinyl copies, I might do that.
I don't care about number ratings, if I like it I will always press PLAY........so for me that choice is heavily weighted to Rush, although last night I did spin Side 2 of In the Court.......I'll probably play it again next month.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 10:03
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Um, only trying to impress that they are different. If it's Rush or Genesis, I have some notions about their style and there is some continuity about the changes to it across albums, not least because of relatively more stable lineups. Because KC change so much, it is easier to dislike or like one or two formations rather than to dislike the band itself. And of course, you could turn around to what I am going to say and suggest any fan would say that about his favourite band, but KC is just hardwork. There was a time when I would have taken either of Rush or Genesis over them because most of their albums just seemed ok to me. My feelings about it couldn't be more different now. And of course, I viewed KC worship with skepticism at that time so I am not really going to try to convince somebody to dig deeper. Will only restrict myself to saying that it's more likely that one or two albums from some or the other formation make a bad impression on someone who doesn't like KC (and of course, it need not be the case at all, just a general observation). |
Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 10:18
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Two bands that I respect, but with the possible exception of KC's 'Red,' neither has ever grabbed me emotionally. The real two giants are Yes and Floyd. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 11:14
I agree. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 13:02
10-4 -------------
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Posted By: MoodyRush
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 13:46
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I can't fairly vote in this poll. I only own 3 KC albums, In the Court, Lizard, and LTIA. In the Court is pretty good, Lizard is uneven, with two amazing songs (Cirkus, Lizard) with some mediocre stuff, and LTIA is a more recent addition, but really growing on me. Rush, however, is the only band that I have a full collection of their studio albums!! ------------- Follow me down to the valley below. Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul. -Lazarus |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 13:57
I've heard all their albums, I just don't like them. I'm not saying they're bad, because they're not, just not my thing. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:09
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:25
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<<<<< ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:27
I'll add Cygnus X-1 Xanadu By Tor and the Snow Dog on the other hand how do we know they will win in a poll.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:29
Even though there are many albums and songs that I like from King Crimson, I believe the only album that I would rate with 5* is ItCotCK. But then, that's just me. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:33
Of course I meant in a poll. Surely there are many people who will like many songs more than Starless... but if you make a poll, which song could actually beat it? Of course, it's rather easy to find out, one only needs to make the poll. Perhaps later on I'll do it... but there are many songs suggested, and people may grow tired of seeing so many polls of "X Rush Song vs Starless". |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:36
I know what you meant. No need to explain I ain't thick. What is the problem? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:39
Ian, I hope that you don't admit that to the ladies.  -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:41
Does thick mean something in America that I'm not aware of?  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:46
Correct....using the word "ain't" is not good english....the ladies do not like that.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:47
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:48
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In other words, it was a failed attempt at a joke that just didn't work. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:48
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We are talking girth here aren't we. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:50
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Yes. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:50
No it worked. I played the role of the straight man.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:54
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So then you were just yanking my chain. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 14:56
Not entirely. I had an inkling that I understood what you meant. Wasn't absolutely sure. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 15:06
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Nobody really ever is quite sure what I mean. -------------
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 15:07
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Rush!!!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 15:21
Oh wow |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:28
Just because it was influential doesn't make it 5*. In the Court.. is nothing compared to their other albums musically. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:30
Just because you say it isn't, doesn't mean it isn't, it only means that you think so. |
Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:33
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Rush easily for me. IMO, they are more cohesive than KC. ------------- "The things that we're concealing, will never let us grow. Time will do its healing, you've got to let it go. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 17:37
Agreed. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 19:39
Well, I wouldn't rate it 5* because it was influential or anything. It was released 10 years before I was born, and I got to know many other prog bands before I heard ItCotCK, so how influential it was means little to me. I would rate it 5* because it is the album that has the music I like better throughout the whole album, and the one album which I like best to listen from start to end. Epitaph is perhaps my very favourite song of theirs (close with Starless). |
Posted By: Glimmung
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 19:43
| King Crimson. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 15 2011 at 19:46
I meant no offense, sorry. And by the way, I actually overlooked your final sentence (about "how do we know they will win in a poll"), otherwise I might not even had replied at all, or I would have replied in a different manner perhaps. However, still, which one song would you put against Starless? We may just make the poll and find out. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: February 29 2012 at 18:36
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When I can vote: KC. Haven't been impressed of what I've heard from Rush, yet. -------------  
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 01:43
R.U.S.H more music to headbang to and not much ambience. I respect Crimson don't get me wrong but how many great albums does Rush have:Caress of Steel, 2112, A Farewell To Kings, Hemispheres,practically everything up to Hold Your Fire is gold to me. What does Crimson have that is perfect: Nothing Yeah I said it nothing they're just average
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:07
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^ What are you twelve?
Ok you made your point Rush and Genesis are better than Crimson. Anything else you wanna get out of your system?? |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:14
In The Court Of The Crimson King, which trumps all of Rush's work. ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:40
Keep dreaming, that album is overrated  |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:42
Both are not better than King Crimson they are just my preference, that's all |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:44
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you should take a look at this http://www.songsouponsea.com/Keeling/Keeling-InTheCourtOfTheCrimsonKing.html ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:46
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Do you understand every one here has an opinion and it might be different than yours.
Please respect it. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 03:55
Because I said I like to headbang doesn't mean that I'm 12( older than you think). I love Hard Rock, Metal, Prog and Rush is the best mix of it not the ambience that Crimson has in their music, which is interesting in it's own right. I just prefer ballsy rock with the Prog Rock and no delivers it better than the "Holy Trinity". Fact Don't be jealous of their longevity, please |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 04:06
Actually Traffic had a Prog Rock album out in 1968 before Crimson ever came to be?  |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 04:51
| What a brilliant thread this turned to be. |
Posted By: farebi_jalebi
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 05:44
| King crimson. |
Posted By: otto pankrock
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 13:40
| Crimson...of course. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 13:41
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Two of my favorite bands ever, but Rush without a doubt
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 15:23
If the criteria is the same as for Rush, then we have: In the Court of the Crimson King Lizard Islands Larks' Tongues in Aspic Starless and Bible Black Red Discipline The ConstruKction of Light (yes I said it) The Power to Believe practically everything from in the court to the power to believe is gold to me (but these ones listed are gold gold gold). Eh? -------------  |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 15:24
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My vote would go for King Crimson. Although Rush is an excellent band, they aren't that eclectic, diverse, experimental as King Crimson. ------------- |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 15:40
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 15:41
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^look guys it's the real holy trinity! :P
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