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Textbook ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
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I like meat but as time goes on I feel increasingly guilty about eating it for ecological reasons. Going vegetarian is good for the environment as the meat industry causes starvation and wrecks the environment. Going to seafood is in some ways worse because the ocean is nearly fished out.
But in typically cognitively dissonant fashion I continue to eat meat all the time.
I can't help it, NZ bacon is just too good.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Yuck.
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lastplaneout ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 04 2010 Location: Durham, NC Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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There's a breakfast restaurant near me that has "Brains and Eggs" on the menu. If I weren't vegetarian I would try it just for the experience, but I'm not sure that I would enjoy it. |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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My father was a POW in Japan during WW2. His diet during that time was mostly fish heads. Needless to say, when we had fish (which was not often) the head was not attached.
Eyes are just another muscle. I do not care to eat them.
We have lost our connection with our food. My grandmother was a caterer...weddings, company picnics, the like. If you wanted fried chicken and you lived in Montgomery County or thereabouts, you went to my grandmother. She in turn went out to Mrs. Pittman's, and between the two of them they'd kill however many chickens were required. Round 'em up, get out the axe, chop off the heads...forty/fifty at a time. Pluck 'em. Fry 'em up. She had a friend and assistant, Mrs. Jacobs, a black woman, who always came in through the back door, never the front (we're talking 50's-60's here). They would fry up those chicken on big ass gas stoves all day.
Now? We go to the store. We buy chicken pieces if we're lazy, whole chicken if there's time for chopping them up.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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JLocke ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
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Perhaps. Though, it isn't likely I would start eating brains for breakfast every morning, even if I ended up enjoying the taste. Seems more like a rare occasion to me.
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lastplaneout ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 04 2010 Location: Durham, NC Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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There might be some evolutionary advantage in being disgusted by nervous system tissue. There are diseases that are transmitted through the consumption of nervous system tissue (and that aren't necessarily killed by cooking). Mad Cow disease, Kuru, and Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease are all examples. So maybe individuals who are disgusted by eating brains would run less of a risk of contracting these disorders.
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JLocke ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
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I have yet to do this, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed. In fact, I hear the eyes and brain of certain animals are some of the tastiest parts. Fish eyes are common to eat in Japan, and so forth. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I'm not so ignorant that I assume it's somehow less gross to eat any other part of an animal. As odd as this could read, there are humane ways of slaughtering animals.
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lastplaneout ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 04 2010 Location: Durham, NC Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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I'm not sure that there is one universal moral/ethical argument for (or against) vegetarianism, just as people decide to become vegetarian or vegan for different reasons. Peter Singer (probably the most widely respected animal rights scholar) would argue that the argument for vegetarianism comes from an expansion of utilitarianism (i.e. one can do the most good by deciding not to eat animals). This doesn't necessarily imply that animals have the same rights as humans, just that animals do have interests that ought to be considered in the decision. I do absolutely agree, however, with the poster who argued that the ability to be a vegetarian is one that comes from our advancements in agriculture and industry. I've always considered my own vegetarianism to be something of a privilege. |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32588 |
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Remind me not to go on a three hour tour with you. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Now picture your old French teacher scolding you.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10743 |
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^ I ordered chicken in a small French cafe and it came with head, neck and eyeballs all intact, it was also cooked at a lower temperature than is usual in the states. It was no big deal to me, I ate it, it also came with a really good salad too, yum yum.
In "real" Chinese restaraunts like the kind you find in older neighborhoods in San Francisco, it is not unusual to get the whole bird with your order, some people like the feet and beaks. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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![]() Steaks don't come with head attached, neither do pork cops or roast leg of lamb - even chickens are too big for one person to eat and are not presented on the plate intact, so the only critters we can eat that can be served avec le tête are fish, seafood and possibly small birds (unless hamsters and mice are back on the menu after 1500 years of culinary abstinence). Aside from small birds, (though I can't recall a specific recipe where they are served complete with head and beak), I think we've all addressed the issue of fish and shell fish (and like Moris, I have eaten whitebait where you eat the whole thing, head and all - and rather enjoy them).
So what creatures are you referring to? |
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Also: I love frogs and wild boar. Goulash made of bear is one of the most delicious things ever. I dislike horse meat. I would like to try sea urchins. I would not eat spiders or scorpions to save my life (although I swallowed one spider accidentally
![]() I wouldn't mind cats or dogs - I don't know if I would like them though. And to stir up some controversy - I don't see a taboo in human flesh. If I'm starving on a desert island, why not? I wouldn't object if one is going to eat me after I die - if that can save someone's life. Edited by clarke2001 - November 04 2010 at 10:31 |
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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^^I will not eat a head of a cow or a lamb - the skull with gnashing teeth and cooked eyes is not appealing to me. I will gladly eat animal's ass - it's the tastiest muscle. I eat occasionally brains (my family loves sheep's brain with scrambled eggs) but I dislike the taste.
However, I have no problem with eating small fish - entire body, along with head and intestines, but I prefer it without it (it's bitter and it spoils the meaty taste). Also, when I was a kid, I used to catch small shrimps and limpets (sea snails) with my father. We were using them as a fishing bait, but also eating them - alive, in one piece. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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My wife's family likes to get a whole roast pig for big parties/occasions, I think they leave the head on for that. Otherwise, I've never really had "meat" with a head intact, but I've had fish many of times with the head on.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10743 |
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^ Ha ha, would you believe a salted raw potato was a favorite snack of mine as a child.
I appreciate the honest answers from those who didn't side-step or change the subject. Anymore real life stories about eating meat that has the head and eyes intact? |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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If it will see me through the day ...
![]() damn that's philosophising.
![]() As Logan said - fish and seafood no problem, mammals are something else, mainly because a cow's head is more than I can eat in one sitting - sucking pig wasn't a problem when I had that, not that I ate any of the head - I don't eat that much offal anyway so brain, eyes and cheeks don't appear on my plate at all. I've prepared most foul from fully feathered, headed and footed creature into something oven-ready so that's not an issue, again, I see no point in eating any of the discarded bits when there is a whole carcass of white meat to munch on. While I am aware that all animals have heads, and tails and feet and livers and kidneys, I don't have a problem with knowing they do, or not eating those bits. Cabbages have roots - not going to eat a cabbage root any time soon, but having one on my plate isn't going to put me off.
However since it was a philosophical question I would counter it by asking would you eat the whole plant? You can chow down on a plate of spuds but would you eat the stalks, leaves and flowers of the potato plant (well, no - they are toxic) (would you eat a raw potato) - you'll grind down the seeds from grasses and bake them into bread or make pasta, but would you eat straw or hay (well, no - you intestine isn't equipped to digest them) - you'd eat an apple but would you eat a apple tree (well, no - you cannot break down cellulose fibres). I've eaten rose petals but I've never been hungry enough to munch my way through the rose bushes in the garden.
99% of the plant kingdom is inedible, most of it will kill you.
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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"Are you going to share any of that with us, Dad?" "No. *sniff* Pinchy would have wanted it this way." ![]() |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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Yep, I have to admit as a meat-eater that 'head and eyes intact' would make me feel a bit squeamish and I'd probably go out of my way to avoid the experience. Reminds me of that scene in the Simpsons where Homer, while crying his eyes out, still manages to eat his 'pet' lobster regardless. |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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I've never had a mammal with the eyes or head still atacked, but I have had fish and shellfish that way. The first time I had a lobster with the head on, it grossed me out a bit, but now it doesn't bother me much. It's just what you're used to. |
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