Bad News for King Crimson Fans

AFBerk010 wrote:   Third, Henry Plainview, opinions people's personal thoughts and views, while you may not agree with it that doesn't make it stupid.

You're new here so you don't know....but you better get used to that ^

JLocke wrote: A Person wrote: JLocke wrote: himtroy wrote:   Find me a rap album that has as much involvement and musical worthiness as something like Thick as a Brick or Zappa's music. Brilliant album. Agreed. In fact, I think I'm going to give it a listen right now.

I was just thinking the same thing.

P.S. And as for the comment about the lyrics, that is once again a generalization. None of the albums I've listed there have showy lyrics. The artists on those releases speak about real, inspired topics, and the first album I listed is almost entirely instrumental. Again, it's judging a book by its cover. I'm guilty of doing the same thing, and I know you're more or less playing devil's advocate here, but I just felt the other point of view needed to be addressed. 

himtroy wrote: I've heard Public Enemy...its not bad.  But still, saying that it's as involved as say Baroque music, Prog rock, or something like 20th century music makes it pretty obvious that people haven't ever played an instrument.  It's like a lot of electronic music....you like what you like, but it's obviously not as involved.  Rap fails to focus on melody and chords as much as it could.  As has already been said, there's certainly a lot of rap that is much better than the garbage everyone hears (that can be said of any genre).  But it amazes me that some people can't see WHY people don't have as much respect for it as an artistic output as they do for things like prog rock master pieces, classical music (as in the umbrella term for classical period, baroque, and 20th century music), or jazz.  It's simply not very complex. I understand that music is about feel, not complexity.  But theres just too much damn rap that sounds exactly like other rap.  The fact that the lyrics worry way to much about being badass and not being about anything also gets to me, though thats not the case in better rap groups/artists.

himtroy wrote:   Find me a rap album that has as much involvement and musical worthiness as something like Thick as a Brick or Zappa's music.

I still don't get Pat's joke 

nothing can be worse then the horrible version off Confortible Numb made by Scissor Sisters, that made be see red,

AFBerk010 wrote: My bad, I am a new member so I haven't seen those other posts, sorry for wasting everyones time. Still disgusting though.

Hell, you are not wasting my time. This kind of junk happens all the time. Especially in Electronic music. I don't want to dance to Electronic, I want to listen to it. Remember the golden days of the early Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze? But, you don't want to remember hearing excerpts from their early pieces in dance tunes now do ya? It's the kingdom of the DJ'S and their sampling concepts. It's the new modern artist taking on that role as well. Proggers argue with me and state that Electronic music sounds best this way. I then ask them....How would you feel if I sampled excerpts of your favorite prog band's compositions into dance club material? They should leave the party dance music to the B52'S because they know from a professional stand point, what the hell they are doing. This is a disease. It will eventually infect all styles of music in the world. Lets sample country songs by Hank Williams with a Go Go's tune. Lets sample The Wizard by Black Sabbath with a Disco Inferno Halloween dance party tune. Sure why not? Insult everybody while your at it. I thought everyone was suppose to express some type of art through their creations. Sample? Sample this! 

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