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Posted: October 03 2009 at 22:02

mm i think that some of the NWOHM have the early traces of what going to become prog metal

Edited by Alberto Muñoz - October 03 2009 at 22:02

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Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:34

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Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:27

sorry I'm not really into prog metal so I guess I can't make any contribution here =/

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Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:06

Come on! No one else has any comments!

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Posted: October 03 2009 at 19:03

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.

This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

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Posted: October 03 2009 at 18:38

Going through my books and excluding any prog-metal related albums (or however else you call them) I concluded that the first progressive metal (as we know it now) album in time should be the mighty

Rage for Order from Queensryche

Listening to the album again and again I realise now why this has been hailed as one of the first real progressive metal albums. Although there are no crazy complex arrangements, obscure timing patterns and unexpected breaks, it still sounds very very ahead of its time (1986). I still believe that the term progressive metal has been given to this album due its innovative sound - a sound that has not been heard before with some avant-garde and ''electronic'' elements.

While the band had released an EP and The Warning album in 1983 and 1984 respectively, both of them where much closer to american power metal (which I also believe was somewhat first played by them...).

In 1986 there are also albums such as Awaken the Guardian but I see it as a more technical power metal album rather than ''prog'' as we call it now.

I am always fond of discussions on views on groundbreaking albums that changed or invented a musical genre and looking forward to hear your views.

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Alberto Muñoz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577	Posted: October 03 2009 at 22:02
	mm i think that some of the NWOHM have the early traces of what going to become prog metal Edited by Alberto Muñoz - October 03 2009 at 22:02


The Quiet One Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745	Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:34
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daslaf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 03 2009 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 290	Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:27
	sorry I'm not really into prog metal so I guess I can't make any contribution here =/
	But now my branches suffer And my leaves don't bear the glow They did so long ago

J-Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826	Posted: October 03 2009 at 21:06
	Come on! No one else has any comments!
	Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime

J-Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826	Posted: October 03 2009 at 19:03
	I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly. This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album. -Jeff
	Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime

aapatsos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226	Posted: October 03 2009 at 18:38
	Going through my books and excluding any prog-metal related albums (or however else you call them) I concluded that the first progressive metal (as we know it now) album in time should be the mighty Rage for Order from Queensryche Listening to the album again and again I realise now why this has been hailed as one of the first real progressive metal albums. Although there are no crazy complex arrangements, obscure timing patterns and unexpected breaks, it still sounds very very ahead of its time (1986). I still believe that the term progressive metal has been given to this album due its innovative sound - a sound that has not been heard before with some avant-garde and ''electronic'' elements. While the band had released an EP and The Warning album in 1983 and 1984 respectively, both of them where much closer to american power metal (which I also believe was somewhat first played by them...). In 1986 there are also albums such as Awaken the Guardian but I see it as a more technical power metal album rather than ''prog'' as we call it now. I am always fond of discussions on views on groundbreaking albums that changed or invented a musical genre and looking forward to hear your views.