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progkidjoel 
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 Posted: June 13 2009 at 21:37 |
 Epignosis wrote:
I prefer CDs because I like the physical product soon.
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This. I like to actually hold and physically own what I pay my money for...
So cover art and Booklet for me.
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Dean
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 20:54 |
Exhibit 1:
...how many people bought that in the 70s because of the Patrick Woodruff's artwork rather than Dave Greenslade's music? (hint: lots)
Edited by Dean - June 13 2009 at 20:54
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Dean
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 20:47 |
Snow Dog wrote:
My cat pissed on my albums.......they stunk bad for a while...... 
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That happened to my albums a while back too - our alpha-tom decided to mark his teritory by spraying my prized collection. I had the bugger neutered for that 
I don't see why they can't put one of those tacky little acrylic CD things in a nice 12" gatefold sleeve and please all of us. It can't be just a question of cost since the net cost of the packaging is peanuts anyway - I mean just how cool would it be to be able to buy Yessongs (for example) on CD but in its original LP packaging?
Edited by Dean - June 13 2009 at 20:49
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:51 |
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I'm with Teo, its' a complete package for me too. No way I could ever switch to downloads.
Actually, I go for LP minis whenever available.
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Raff
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:17 |
Edited by Raff - June 13 2009 at 17:18
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:03 |
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Does no one care about my cat's piss albums?
Edited by Snow Dog - June 13 2009 at 17:30
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The T
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:59 |
With books, too. I like a physical book, one I can discuss with a friend, having the book in my hand, not in a stupid laptop that kills all the magic...
Laptops are slowly turning into the real world other people live in... what a small place they inhabit....
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Raff
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:55 |
The T wrote:
Really... the question is kind of..... There's no way I'd buy an album just for the booklet and not the music... please.... wrong alternatives....
But there's no way I will ever change to downloading unless I'm forced to by anihilation of the CD... I like to have a collection I can SEE.... and I can SHARE with other people... in my HOUSE, presenty, not just "share" over a network.... I hate that de=personalizing factor of MP3... killing social life completely.... now everybody is a walking zombie with headphones plugged in their ears minding about nothing but his "lown sh*t".... |
What he said  . I know having a large CD collection (as we have now) poses lots of problems as regards space, but in my view it's all worth it. And I also share Friede's sentiments about reading e-books... I can read articles on the web, but NOTHING for me will ever replace the pleasure of reading an actual, material book or magazine - especially when curled up on the couch, or lying in bed.
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The T
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:53 |
Really... the question is kind of..... There's no way I'd buy an album just for the booklet and not the music... please.... wrong alternatives....
But there's no way I will ever change to downloading unless I'm forced to by anihilation of the CD... I like to have a collection I can SEE.... and I can SHARE with other people... in my HOUSE, presenty, not just "share" over a network.... I hate that de=personalizing factor of MP3... killing social life completely.... now everybody is a walking zombie with headphones plugged in their ears minding about nothing but his "lown sh*t"....
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:21 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ maybe so. I wouldn't call it "stupid" though ... but of course nobody can't seriously vote for choice #2. Call it a rhethorical poll then, with the inherent message being that the actual music is always more important than the artwork.
I guess the next question is: Could you let go of the concept of having the physical cover art / booklet and instead have downloads and all the cover art and booklet information accessible via the internet?
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To give an answer to your question: I have been reading a lot of books online lately, and while it is a great thing that this is possible (for free even), it is somehow not the same for me, simply because my favourite reading position is on my belly, with a book in front, and to top it with Jean by my side, reading together. To do that with a computer I would have to switch to laptop, and it still would not be quite the same. But I am quite certain that for future generations this will not be a problem at all.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:15 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ back in the nineties I lost about 150 vinyl albums because they got wet in the basement (a water pipe leaked). So I know first hand how it feels to lose part of your collection.
BTW: I was thinking about the new DT album that's about to be released. I think I'll buy it as a download, even though I have all their other albums on CD. I'm breaking with my tradition ... 
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I can't do it I'm afraid....I have to have the CD.
Regarding the price of CDs. I only normally buy them at sale or rduced prices anyway...so....
My cat pissed on my albums.......they stunk bad for a while......
Edited by Snow Dog - June 13 2009 at 12:17
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:10 |
^ back in the nineties I lost about 150 vinyl albums because they got wet in the basement (a water pipe leaked). So I know first hand how it feels to lose part of your collection. BTW: I was thinking about the new DT album that's about to be released. I think I'll buy it as a download, even though I have all their other albums on CD. I'm breaking with my tradition ...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:08 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Its kind of a stupid poll MIke. Who on earth buys a CD just for the cover/ booklet?
I understand the intention of the poll, but the question is flawed. |
In the 70s my elder brother bought a lot of albums just because he liked the cover art, and many a discovery of his was made that way. However, the number of available albums then was about as big as the number of monthly new publications today; the music industry expanded immensely.
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What I mean is......who buys an album just for the cover, and not to find out what the music is like.
Obviously a cover may interest you. And lead you to buy the album...containing music. But its the music thats important.
Do I have to expand on every statement?
Sheesh...you are hard work!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:04 |
^^Well I said "kind of stupid" not actually in fact stupid. I was being nice. 
But.......some CDs I will keep buying because I have the rest by that band.......for example Dream Theater, but otherwise, I guess, downloading is ok.
Put it this way. I prefer Cds, but the music on those CDs is obviously more important than the booklet. Havibg said that, if the booklet gets dammaged or wet..........I AM DEVESTATED!!!!!!!!
No....................its true.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 12:04 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Its kind of a stupid poll MIke. Who on earth buys a CD just for the cover/ booklet?
I understand the intention of the poll, but the question is flawed. |
In the 70s my elder brother bought a lot of albums just because he liked the cover art, and many a discovery of his was made that way. However, the number of available albums then was about as big as the number of monthly new publications today; the music industry expanded immensely.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:56 |
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^ maybe so. I wouldn't call it "stupid" though ... but of course nobody can't seriously vote for choice #2. Call it a rhethorical poll then, with the inherent message being that the actual music is always more important than the artwork.
I guess the next question is: Could you let go of the concept of having the physical cover art / booklet and instead have downloads and all the cover art and booklet information accessible via the internet?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:53 |
Its kind of a stupid poll MIke. Who on earth buys a CD just for the cover/ booklet?
I understand the intention of the poll, but the question is flawed.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:41 |
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^ absolutely. I'm not saying that I won't be buying a single CD anymore, or that I can't appreciate extraordinary booklets or cover art. But on the whole I'll prefer downloads from now on ... also because I simply don't have the budget for buying a dozen CDs each month.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:38 |
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 11:36 |
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Not to mention that there are probably a lot of albums which simply can not be downloaded, just because they are not popular enough.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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