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Padraic
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 12:33 |
I'd say VII, but there might be bits here and there on a few later albums that are not too bad. Certainly everything after Kath died is to be avoided, IMO.
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darkshade
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 11:35 |
what's the last good Chicago album?
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 11:32 |
I think that Chicago have been approved for inclusion by the jazz/rock team. They were looking for volunteers to write a bio and add them. This is if my memory serves me correctly.
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clarke2001
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 11:07 |
Weren't they named 'Chicago Transity Authority' at the beginning? If so, we could at least add that pre-Chicago band without much hustle. Great psyche prog!
If, however, they were named 'Chicago' from the very beginning (with CTA being the album title) then this suggestion of mine goes down the drain...I heard both but I don't know which fact is true.
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tszirmay
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Location: Canada
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 10:12 |
I have seen them twice (post Kath) in th late 70s and the reason was that the first concert was so dreadful that I thought maybe I was too intoxicated. Turns out I wasn't , the second show was even worse! Horrible , noisy, disheveled pop music with tons of pretense and arrogance. Yuck, Big Time! I , for one, would definitely vote against any inclusion, as 95 % of their catalog is unsuited to this site.
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 09:08 |
Early Chicago (up to the 7th album) is full blown prog and belong in JR/F . They belong there way more than Blood Sweat & Tears and most of the brass rock groups already included in that subgenre? True Kath and the keyboardists and Pankow were the prog-minded writers, and Peter Cetera is the only "MOR poison" (fortunately not too present in the first few albums) in the group
I say: YES!! It's their turn to be included.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Padraic
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 08:28 |
Early Chicago is definitely prog-related at least, in my view, and probably belong in JR/F for their early output. As Chicapah said after Kath died they went in a different direction - the bulk of their discography just didn't match up in quality or "progressiveness" to the earlier stuff, I'm afraid. Their early work (I'd say CTA through VII) are really outstanding. edit, amended after listening to VII - my mind is changed 
Edited by NaturalScience - April 05 2009 at 10:00
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Raff
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 07:53 |
The idea of having a 'single album' category for cases such as this one has been recently discussed in the Collaborators' Zone. Personally, I think it is an excellent idea, but unfortunately I am not the one responsible for implementing such suggestions  ...
Edited by Raff - April 02 2009 at 08:06
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Chicapah
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Joined: February 14 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 07:28 |
In their early years Chicago was extremely progressive and boldly pushing the envelope of what a "horn band" could do. I think guitarist Terry Kath had a lot to do with urging the others to take chances and stretch out but, with his untimely death, they eventually fell in love with commercialism and the 3 minute chartbuster. If it was possible to isolate their first few albums and designate those as prog related I would like to see them get an honorary mention or something. But the bulk of their catalogue is miles away from belonging here.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Cheesecakemouse
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Location: New Zealand
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Posted: April 02 2009 at 01:58 |
I'm no expert only got their greatist hits, but I know quite a few of their albums had epic suite, and jazzy improv. Anyway what does everyone else think, anyone out there a Chicago expert and think they should be in the archives? perhaps this is wrong place to stick this topic  .
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