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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:45
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Either way, I actually believe you are nothing but a troll and will not continue to feed you.  Altho I'm sure some here will...

 

Ok I hear you.

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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:43

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I think that this is Hopelevres experiece of these issues, not racism.

Ignorance is no excuse for racism; and arrogance is no excuse for ingorance.

Either Hopelevre, you are off your meds or you may want to consider therapy.

Either way, I actually believe you are nothing but a troll and will not continue to feed you.  Altho I'm sure some here will...

 
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:37

Originally posted by hopelevre hopelevre wrote:

it is so very obvious by tuxon's last post how very shallow the "evidence" against me is and i already countered the argument once in this thread (1st page)......go listen to the rap song i posted that was recorded with the black friends of mine i hate....many americans , black and white will attest to the truth of the phenomena i was describing, to which yu refer to as "clearly racist"

I'm always amazed how these crypto-racists always have "black friends" whom they treat with respect.............Confused



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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:37
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Im not a big Hopelerve fan, but if you read his posts carfully he aint a rascist.


I fully agree - Hopelevre is not a racist.

He is merely a sad little troll who is clearly doing his best to be as obnoxious as possible in an attempt to be thrown off the site by the moderators.

Personally, I wish him every success.

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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:36

Anyway I can produce dozens of these
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Posted: 2005 27 April at 12:31am | IP Logged Report Post Quote hopelevre
you say that as if it were a bad thing james...the world is trying to come together not assert their differences as weapons...except in certain groups in the populus
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I wonder what he means by this
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:18
Ok its insulting, but is it racsist or just his opinion. Liten Im not gonna defend him anymore its not my job and I ddont really like him much anyway. As Ive said before his very first post attacked me so there you go bye.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:15
Hey you put another post up before i was ready. I replied to the first
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:14
I see what you mean, but I dont think its deliberate racism. But youve seen how this guy talks/writes. Hes very full of himself.
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Posted: 2005 26 April at 5:20pm | IP Logged Report Post Quote hopelevre
yes of course....leave it to a brit to let us kno the "proper" way....you know nothign of the problem nor how it manifests itself but are content to blame it on the "white" administration....yea yu brits have it all figured out, just dotn allow too many negroes in the country and yu wont have any problems, way to go...by the way ,im caucasian and that same white admin. that is oppressing the negroes is oppressign me the chinese the mexicans and alot of others who werrent born into said admin. but you dotn see us all walking around saying they are singling us out and blaming everyone but ourselves for not being ambitious ebough to do soemhting about it....see , the other oppresesed groups realize the only way to change our situation is to get out there and work for it, the blacks are content to fester in the filth they are in and wait for what they think the world owes them, that is why refugees from 50 years ago now are upper middle class here whereas the blacks economic class is not changing even though they have had the same rights for more years

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this bold sentence of course isn't insulting too to the black community??????
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Posted: 2005 26 April at 7:47pm | IP Logged Report Post Quote hopelevre
i am no racist....in fact i have several black "friends"...tehy come over to my house and i help them produce their songs with my equipment at no charge, yet amongst themselves i am considered a "chump"....tehy will talk derisively about me in my presence in their own esoteric jargon as if im"too white" to see through its negative oversions...nevertheless i dotn hold this against them....i realize this is a product of their environment, and they are welcomed back into my home time and again.....here is a link to a song they freestyled to while i helped lay what i think is definately an innovative-for-the-genre style beat...further, i was very good friends with a homosexual at a time in my life, we spent much time together(up to 3-4 nights a week, including overnight stays in the others' home, i am NOT homophobic)until he realized i would never leave my fiancee or even betray her once sexually with him....i made attempts to rekindle our friendship several times but they wer not allowed to avail me


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So the sentence in bold isn't a racist remark??????????????

I don't mind people speaking badly about me, because they are inferior to me anyway.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:05
I think that this is Hopelevres experiece of these issues, not racism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:59
it is so very obvious by tuxon's last post how very shallow the "evidence" against me is and i already countered the argument once in this thread (1st page)......go listen to the rap song i posted that was recorded with the black friends of mine i hate....many americans , black and white will attest to the truth of the phenomena i was describing, to which yu refer to as "clearly racist"

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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:56

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Depends what you consider rascist I suppose Tuxon

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Posted: 2005 26 April at 5:07pm | IP Logged Report Post Quote Snow Dog

....also i have found you cant just dislike a gay man as a person, you cant find them unpleasant ....its more than that.....if you dotn like a gay man the only reason possible is cuz he's gay....these are the types of attitudes that make people intolerant of homos

 

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Posted: 2005 26 April at 5:10pm | IP Logged Report Post Quote hopelevre
very true snow but i see the percentages the highest among :
1: homosexuals
2: black americans(they just almost 100 % generally are steeped in "hate whitey cuz he's hating you" from the time they are born, of course there are always exceptions, but on the whole they are far more racist towards whites than whites toward them, again this is the dynamic in the states i cant speak for the globe, but I dont see it really being that way anywhere else)

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This is clearly racist, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:53
rather temporal of you.....(goes home, tail between legs)......you obviously have no idea what goes into music if you think that the mp3's i have posted on this site could be made by pressing a few computer keys and not knowing how to play an instrument....i play various instruments(not so very well, but moderate enough) ..... but with my stuff i focus more on textures...yu see it may be stylistically opposed to your tastes?....
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:48
Originally posted by hopelevre hopelevre wrote:

i have been around this site for awhile and a striking dynamic has become increasingly salient....it seems most of you actually have no clue about the fundamnetals behind music...most of you seem to think that because you listen to "prog", what yu all consider the end all be all of music, this means you actually have real musical knowledge...however as is proven here time and agin, when the time comes to make thoughtful statements regarding another's work, the ability is not there...it either sucks because it isnt (yes, genesis, elp) or its brilliant because it is....it engenders a great sense of irony to me that most of you afficianados who are so quik to label yourself musically superior and capable of reviewing musician's work are in fact completely musically illiterate and have absolutely no idea , when it comes to music(other than your personal preferences) about that which it is that yu speak


You should learn that making music is not pushing a few computer keys...
Learn to play an instrument and we'll talk after.
Maybe most of people here are not musicians, but they have a minimum of musical knowledge (and not only in the prog field), and because of that, they know what they like.
They are able to make the difference between false prog and true prog.
To use your words, you are quick to label yourself a musician.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:46
id rather focus on what Reed considers "due process"
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:40
Depends what you consider rascist I suppose Tuxon
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:38

Originally posted by hopelevre hopelevre wrote:

it seems as tho yu have the torches and noose out....are yu sure its me that is the bigot?

So a jury is bigoted when it weighs up the evidence and finds someone guilty,is it?Confused

The judge is bigoted when he imprisons the offender,after due process?Confused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:34
it seems as tho yu have the torches and noose out....are yu sure its me that is the bigot? and rather (reed) i was commended for toning it down...however that is hard to maintain when.....

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