Metallica in the archive ?

Manunkind wrote: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4754&a mp;PN=3&TPN=2 Plodder wrote a very interesting comment in his third post on that page, I think you might want to check it out, Oliver... Although I can already see where the next flame is going to shoot up from...

"Celebrate the different moods, colours and textures contained in our progressive tastes. Don't spend your time hating someones personal tastes."

Yes, but DT is not prog, so it can't be a part of our progressive tastes.
It's out of category!

Certif1ed wrote: Loads of people STILL complain about Radiohead - but few seem to mind Uriah Heep. You can please some of the people some of the time...

Cert,

I can understand, and sympathise with your point re Radiohead. You are however guilty of constantly doing the same thing with Uriah Heep!

maani wrote: This is why I have always felt that a band should not be included on the site simply because they happen to make one, or even two, albums that are (or might be considered) "prog."  A band should not be included on the site unless the majority of its output over an extended period is "prog": i.e., the "ratio" system.  Or, at very least, there is a clear, broad acceptance that a band is, in fact, prog.

Maani,

Just to follow up on your point, I'm not at all comfortable with the ratio idea. As others have pointed out, that could lead to bands such as Genesis et al being excluded. The "broad acceptance" idea is better, but necessarily more woolly.

I would say any band which has made prog albums over a period of time (i.e. not just a one off) should qualify, regardless of whether or not they later (or earlier) strayed.

To give you an example of why ratios would not work, lets say 50% (for arguement's sake) of Genesis albums were prog, and the required ratio is 75%, they would not qualify. If however they had changed their name after Hacket left to say "Then there were three", Geneiss would then qualify, and TTWT would not.

arses

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Manunkind wrote: oliverstoned wrote: The level is getting lower and lower here... Hope it's a joke... It is a joke. Look above.

Ok
That's cool.
Hope it's a joke from Dream Theatre too.

I LOVE Metallica but it cannot fit in this site... do you think it can do along with classics like genesis? yes? or new prog like dream theater? spock's beard?  Also, if metallica enters the archives, then you should have to add hundreds of metal bands!!! (Megadeth, Death, Destruction, Kreator, Suicidal Tendencies?.. you don't want to do it don't you? then you should have to visit www.metalstorm.ee).... i'm not saying metallica doesn't have prog influences, they managed to do such great songs like Orion, Master of Puppets, And Justice fo All, The Call of Ktulu, Fade to Black, The Frayed ends of Sanity, To live is to Die, One and some others, but they ARE NOT a prog band, not because you find some irregular songs in metal, i'm saying, with various parts and riffs not easily to be made in this genre, they would be necessarily prog... We're talking just about SOME songs taken out from just 4 albums of the 10 albums!!! they've taken out in 20 years... please.... Metallica can't be added in this site's PROG archives. Please don't!! by the way if you think Metallica does prog, try Megadeth, IMO they're better than Metallica, though Metallica are one of the most important bands in Rock / Metal history.

The level is getting lower and lower here...
Hope it's a joke...

I have to say you had me there. But the joke's on all the people who said "Yeah add them!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

maani wrote: Max: April Fool's it may be.  But one thing this joke showed: just how many people think Metallica are prog and should be included!  About 50%!!  Yikes!  It's a good thing you reserve such decisions to yourself, and don't go specifically by democratic vote!  Thanks for being a benevolent dictator!!! Peace.

 

The poll results were tricked

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I couldnt believe you were serious, maybe 1 metallica album but all there 90's stuff pop, nu-metal almost i like there older stuff  Ride the lightning but it isnt really progressive...maybe call of ctulu