What does Dream Theater need ?

Avantgardehead wrote: Genesis, King Crimson, and Yes get their fair-share of dislike. Fans of those bands don't seem to complain nearly as much when someone doesn't like them, also.

yes but you don't see entire THREADS dedicated to what's wrong with them
I think I might actually start that thread I previously mentioned

StyLaZyn wrote: khammer99 wrote:    You're right about that. DT does seem to get under some peoples skin for some reason, where as other bands, like Genesis, King Crimson and Yes are held sacred and beyond reproach.   They are the originators or part of the first wave of Prog. They didn't rehash anything before them like DT can be accused of. They broke ground. I can't say comfortably that DT are innovators even if they do inspire new musicians.

 I don't recall this as a discussion about "breaking new ground", more of a discussion of some suppose missing element in their music.
 Oh, and I'm sure that the members of Yes didn't rehash any of the classical music that came before them, did they? But of course, they re-interpreted it, and improved it.

heyitsthatguy wrote: khammer99 wrote: Avantgardehead wrote: Cylli Kat wrote: if you think you can do what they've done for the last couple of decades, then step up to the freakin' plate and take your swing. In the meantime, quit knockin' what you, yourselves can't do... Sorry guys, we're not allowed to have opinions anymore. And since when does somebody need to be a instrumental virtuoso to have an opinion about one? I guess Leonard Maltin isn't allowed to have negative opinions about movies because he's never made them. And in the meantime, quit freaking out about negative opinions regarding bands you like. It doesn't/shouldn't affect you.  Right on!!!   Why should people take offense, if you don't like one of their favorite bands? I'm a big fan of DT. If people don't like them, or think they're boring and what not, so what? They're not going to stop me from buying their stuff. Nobody's got a gun to your head saying YOU MUST LIKE BAND X...  As for the quote about not knocking stuff you can't do, please, that's just a ridiculous statement. I'm not freaking either but you don't often see a "The Mars Volta Sucks" or "Genesis is Dumb" thread, whereas Dream Theater hate threads are commonplace here

 You're right about that. DT does seem to get under some peoples skin for some reason, where as other bands, like Genesis, King Crimson and Yes are held sacred and beyond reproach.

Genesis is dumb and the Mars Volta sucks. Dream Theater need to be less like them

Let's start a new thread asking "What does Dream Theater NOT need?"  

Avantgardehead wrote: Cylli Kat wrote: if you think you can do what they've done for the last couple of decades, then step up to the freakin' plate and take your swing. In the meantime, quit knockin' what you, yourselves can't do... Sorry guys, we're not allowed to have opinions anymore. And since when does somebody need to be a instrumental virtuoso to have an opinion about one? I guess Leonard Maltin isn't allowed to have negative opinions about movies because he's never made them. And in the meantime, quit freaking out about negative opinions regarding bands you like. It doesn't/shouldn't affect you.

 Right on!!!
  Why should people take offense, if you don't like one of their favorite bands? I'm a big fan of DT. If people don't like them, or think they're boring and what not, so what? They're not going to stop me from buying their stuff. Nobody's got a gun to your head saying YOU MUST LIKE BAND X...
 As for the quote about not knocking stuff you can't do, please, that's just a ridiculous statement.

bwahahah they could eat less cheese 'cause it sure is pouring outta them hooohoooohoooo

is anybody able to make a summary to sent to DT?

Would an all accordian re-rendition of the polkas of Frankie (or even Weird Al) Yankovic be out of the question?
How about if they borrow Earth, Wind and Fire's horn section?
Maybe co-write some songs with Madonna?

Sheesh, people, this is Dream Theater, if you think you can do what they've done for the last couple of decades, then step up to the freakin' plate and take your swing.
In the meantime, quit knockin' what you, yourselves can't do...

They may not be the greatest thing since indoor plumbing and electricity, but c'mon, they do what they do. And I, for one, can very much appreciate their contribution for what it is.

This whole "If I were in Dream Theater, I would..." or, "Let's bash on Dream Theater" kind of thread is vapid, insipid, and pointlessly inane.
Let it go.
Please.



Edited by Cylli Kat - February 21 2008 at 22:28

Love and food. Also, Steve Hackett as musical director wouldn't hurt. Besides the fact that I don't like Dreamtheater at all, I can recognize the effort they put into their thing (I mean progresive music). They should try to get more into content and forget about perfect interpretation; that really is their weak spot. They sound too uptight... ¡and they are musicians!...