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lucas
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Posted: June 29 2010 at 09:19 | |||||||||||||||||||
Such a long list and no Voivod .
I second the ones I highlighted in red.
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Atomicunderware
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Posted: June 29 2010 at 06:25 | |||||||||||||||||||
The new Negura Bunget is a grower. No, it's not the same, but still very good, and a worthy continuation of their legacy.
I see a lot about Dan Swano in this thread, but haven't read the whole thing. A truly great extreme prog metal band is one of his projects - Pan.Thy.Monium. The album 'Khaooos & Kon-Fus-Ion' is superb. Edit: Just noticed a mention of Pan.Thy.Monium, should be more observant. Interesting discussion regarding Esoteric too. We aren't exactly enamoured with the funeral doom label. When describing our music to people who have no idea of that kind of thing, I usually start with 'Pink Floyd'. Given that early Floyd, Crimson etc is probably the common denominator amongst all our influences, I suppose 'prog' will always be a part of the sound in one way or another. Long songs, orchestral arrangements, odd timings - all elements of prog, all elements of our music.
Edited by Atomicunderware - June 29 2010 at 06:34 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2010 at 19:38 | |||||||||||||||||||
I just found on the internet samples from the new Negura Bunget album. I can't listen to them right now as it's late night here, so I'll post them for your enjoyment (?) From what I read everyone says it's not the same thing anymore, but they sound good. I'm very curious.
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: April 27 2010 at 01:05 | |||||||||||||||||||
Here are some favorites of mine:
Spiral Architect- A Sceptic's Universe Extol- Synergy Ephel Duath- Pain Necessary To Know Twisted Into Form- Then Comes Affliction To Awaken The Dreamer Martyr- all three of their albums The Dillinger Escape Plan w/ Mike Patton- Irony Is A Dead Scene The Deserts of traun- The Lilac moon Detachment- suspended in stone Depressive Age- Lying In Wait Deathrow- Deception Ignored Dark Lunacy- all Damn The Machine- s/t Cynic- both full lengths (and most likely this new ep) Crom-Tech- all Cosmonaut- Pipebomb Full Of Nails Coroner- all Confessor- Condemned (technical progressive doomy thrash- just brilliant) Collapsar- both Cloudkicker- self released stuff in a Meshuggah vein, but more ambient Capharnaum- Fractured (features Daniel Mongrain of Martyr- killer stuff!) Atrox- all with Monika Edvardson Atrocity- Hallucinations, todessehnsucht Atheist- all Arcturus- all Andromeda- all Anata- all Altered Aeon- Dispiritism Aletheian- Dying Vine Alarum- both Absurd 2 (squared)- ep (extol side project- tech thrash with fretless bass) Drottnar- Welterwerk Ebonylake- On The Eve Of The Grimly Inventive Exivious- s/t Frantic Bleep- Fluctuadmission and The Sense Apparatus Gorguts- everything Gorod- everything Gory Blister- Art Bleeds, Cognitive Sinergy Hectic Patterns- Random Helstar- Nosferatu, A Distant Thunder The Human Abstract- Nocturne Illogicist- The Insight Eye, Subjected Into The Moat- everything Intronaut- Void Ion dissonance- Breathing Is Irrelevant, Solace Kadenzza- both albums Kalisia- Skies (demo) and the latest release Karmakanic- Entering The Spectra Korovakill- Waterhells Le Grand Guignol- The Great Maddening Lethargy- discography Loincloth- Demo Breadwinner- The Burner Lux Occulta- The Mother And The Enemy, My Guardian Anger (they are all worth investigating though) Lye By Mistake- both albums, but moreso Fea Jur, when they dropped the terrible vocals Lykathea Aflame- Elvenefris Meridian- The Seventh Sun Mick Barr- anything- Orthrelm/ Octis/ Ocrilim/ Flying Luttenbachers.. Mind Over Four- Half Way Down (top 100 of all time probably) Mutant- Thy Aeonic Majesty Theory In Practice- all Negativa- demo Neglected Fields- all Orakle- Tourments and Perdition Oxiplegatz- all Pan.Thy.Monium- Khaoohs & Kon-Fus-ion Pavor- Furioso Pessimist- Ke Hvizdam Pestilence- everything but that newest atrocity-of-a-boring waste Phantasmagory- Anamorphosis Of Dreams, Odd Sounds Power Of Omens- Rooms Of Anguish Protest The Hero- both full lengths Prototype- both albums Psychofagist- all Psychotic Waltz- All (fricking brilliant prog metal- the kings!) Psychotogen- the calculus of evil Psyopus- all Psypheria- embrace the mutation Ram-Zet- all Reflux- the illusion of democracy Ron Jarzombek/WatchTower/Blotted Science Scholomance- the immortality Murders, A Treatise On Love Scrambled Defuncts- Souls Despising The God Sculptured- all Serdce- Cyberly, The Alchemy Of Harmony Sieges Even- everything up to The Art Of Navigating By The Stars (and that one meanders a lot) Sikth- both albums Sleep Terror- Probing tranquility Soilwork- The chainheart machine Spastic Ink- both Spawn Of Possession- both Stargazer- the scream that tore the sky Symbyosis- everything Terminal Function- all Thought Industry- everything! (I can't stress this band enough) Tiamat- Wildhoney, A deeper kind of slumber Timescape- strange Today Is The Day- Willpower, In The Eyes Of God (this one has Brann and Bill from Mastodon) Toxik- Think This (best progressive tech thrash album of all time?) Ulcerate- Of fracture and failure Virulence- a conflict scenario VUVR- Pilgrimage Winds- Reflections Of The I Wintersun- s/t Without Face- Astronomicon 7 for 4- all I probably already posted a list before, but someone recently asked for recommendations, and these are pretty unique, I am not one to like Opeth (too repetitious and pretty boring) too much, but you might like them. Some of the highly regarded albums on here are rather tame actually..... |
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EatThatPhonebook
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:52 | |||||||||||||||||||
Well, thanks to the existence of this genre in this site, I probably would have never wanted to listen to bands such as Mastodon or Opeth.
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J-Man
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:42 | |||||||||||||||||||
Here's the holy trinity of tech/extreme prog metal... 1. Edge of Sanity - Crimson (if you don't have this, you haven't lived yet) 2. Opeth - Still Life 3. Death - Symbolic |
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J-Man
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:38 | |||||||||||||||||||
Awesome! |
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:32 | |||||||||||||||||||
That Blotted Science album title should NOT read machinations of dimentia, rather it should be spelled Dementia...
I'm just sayin'... |
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sleeper
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 10:57 | |||||||||||||||||||
Oh its a good list a definitely a good place to start with Ex/Tech, but I rate Lazarus Bird very highly.
They have said that its possible but not in the forseeable future.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 10:47 | |||||||||||||||||||
I don't care about that list either, but it's our list, so we should acknowledge it. And it's a good place to start.
I wouldn't bet on that, reunions are today's fashion (and business). |
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sleeper
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 10:43 | |||||||||||||||||||
Damn, I've just seen that Burst split at the end of last year, so it looks like the awsome Lazarus Bird (which IMO is better than 2/3rds of whats on that list you just posted harmonium) will be the bands last album.
I'm off to go listen to Prey on Life, Origio and Lazarus Bird, three amazing albums.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 06:43 | |||||||||||||||||||
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 06:21 | |||||||||||||||||||
Does anyone here have a top 10 list of best tech extreme metal albums? I have no true idea about this music. I dont like dark metal as a rule but am open to change if theres good stuff out there and no too evil sounding with dark lyrics.
thx in advance..,
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sleeper
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Posted: April 26 2010 at 05:47 | |||||||||||||||||||
Two excellent albums and I'll definitely be chasing up more of his work (Pan.Thy.Monium is probably next on my list).
Also agree with you about The Closing Chronicles, definitely not a metal album, much closer to neo prog.
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: April 25 2010 at 19:34 | |||||||||||||||||||
also, the new Son Of Aurelius disc is not bad either....
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: April 25 2010 at 18:01 | |||||||||||||||||||
so the latest thing I have been enjoying (and I think they should be included in the extreme category on here) is the latest Hunab Ku ep... The Rewiring Process...
because I am feeling lazy, I will post someone else's review to give you an inkling of what to expect:
I have not heard their older, full-length album, but I bet it is entertaining as well. Seriously, if you like Mr. Bungle, DEP, Meshuggah, animals as leaders, and any other shred band with ambient interludes and a good Mike Patton-influenced singer- with effects, samples, and helter-skelter insanity added to the mix, this is for you.
I also enjoyed the first two The Crinn eps.... but the latest full length "dreaming Saturn" is quite a step back in the insanity factor, and I mean these guys made (on the eps) Brain Drill seem tame.
also, in case I have not already stated as much, the new Abigor ep- Time Is The Sulphur In The Veins Of The Saint- is one of the best avant metal releases of the year.
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J-Man
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Posted: April 19 2010 at 15:42 | |||||||||||||||||||
What do you think of those two? |
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sullenface
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Posted: April 19 2010 at 15:34 | |||||||||||||||||||
haven't read whole topic, so don't know whether this was discussed: what are the criteria black metal bands added to PA? There are enough among tech/extremal and post metal/experimental categories, and sometimes I don't understand why some of them are added and why similar to them or enother interesting groups were not. I speak, for example, about "wolwes in the throne room", even "darkspace" is presented here, and from another side, also for example, "sear bliss" (to be honest one of my favorite black metal bands).
guess it's from endless argument "what does the term "prog" mean?", interesting, amazing, innovative, sophisticated or something else.
please, give your opinion about this question, and what do you think about sear bliss' addition?
finally, recently I thought about Dimmu Borgir and progressive. Several years ago my answer would be this definition doesn't fit, but now I could conclude they are quite progressive, not because they are similar to typical "progressive metal bands sound" (of course they are not) but because of extended conception of progressiveness. What do you think?
p.s. very glad that metalarchives.com were started, great sourse with high potential. i wish fast content filling to it, unfortunately I cannot participate cause of my bad english)
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Dominic
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Posted: April 15 2010 at 23:16 | |||||||||||||||||||
^ Holy Crap All that was amazing. I really dug the Negura Bunget drummer, (my goodness... especially compared to most black metal percussionists) but this new guy is super creative as well. It seems that i'll finally be able to get excited about a new "Black Metal" album that's not being released by Drudkh.
EDIT: Wait.... two percussionist, nice! Also, i just read in an interview up on their myspace account that one of them is "Sergio Ponti" of Ephel Duath (well, one of Ephel Duaths ever changing line up) Edited by Dominic - April 15 2010 at 23:31 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 10 2010 at 18:50 | |||||||||||||||||||
Dordeduh, the Negura Bunget spin-off project, have appeared in their first live show and they sound really awersome. Here's what I could find on YouTube:
- a great version of a Negura Bunget piece: - and a big chunck of the concert, filmed by the organizers: I'm currently listening to the first video from the organizers, and it sounds awesome. Can't wait for them to release the album. |
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