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Ricochet 
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:06 |
Yeah...my son likes them...he saw them playing on Cartoon Network. 
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Trickster F.
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:05 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:03 |
Don't know enought about them.
Don't care.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:00 |
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Philéas
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:58 |
I'm with Spiderprog. 
See now why the Prog Related thing was a bad idea?
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Spiderprog
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:38 |
I am the last one to object to making this site broader and
be flexible with Prog definitions but including Iron Maiden?
OK let's say that they are Prog Related is it logical to include Iron Maiden
and not Led Zeppelin?
They are a hundred times more Prog Related. And if you include them you pave
the way to so many more bands that this website is in danger of losing its
identity.
There are just about a thousand more bands that will need to
be included if Iron Maiden is Prog Related. The fact that they are more popular
is no excuse to include them and exclude others. There are enough websites that
deal with heavy metal bands, was adding Iron Maiden to this one a wise decision? To be consistent, the prog related section will have to include more bands than all the other categories combined!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 15:02 |
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WaywardSon
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 14:46 |
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mystic fred
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 14:40 |
RIOTS IN WORLD CAPITAL CITIES AS PROG ARCHIVE ANNOUNCE NEW LISTING
Rafters News Agency 3rd October 2006
Public unrest around the world deepened last night as riots were reported in the world's major capital cities.
In London, Berlin, Sydney, Paris, Rome, New York, Rio de Janiero, Swindon and Bolton, disgruntled Prog Archive fans assembled to protest about the inclusion of IRON MAIDEN into the database - many burned effigies of Prog Archive Admin members and chanted "They are not Prog" it is reported.
Iron Maiden records and CD's were burned in huge bonfires in each city. Police think the protests were co-ordinated by The Revolutionary Purist Front, an organisation opposed to any new additions on the site.
An Admin spokesman said "we never had this much trouble when Deep Purple or The Beatles were included, Maiden are only included in Prog-related - it'll all die down in a few weeks. God knows what will happen when Metallica are included..."
The Army and National Guard remain on standby during these troubled times.
Edited by mystic fred - October 03 2006 at 15:12
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Selkie
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 14:40 |
Seyo wrote:
It was already voted NO, but whoever....
Now it appeared added to PA without a strong reason, at least to my opinion. If they are prog-related, then everyone else is too...[IMG]height=17 alt=Confused src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> |
Yeah, many metal bands have very technical instrumentation, write longer songs, deviate from standard verse/chorus song structures, and write concept albums. If you follow the reasoning that Maiden is prog, then you'd have to include a bunch of other metal bands, ex: Metallica.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 13:09 |
Melomaniac wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
A BIG definitive yes. They dabbled with prog ever since their first album, with tracks like 'The Phantom of the Opera' and 'Remember Tomorrow' and have hade prog tracks on each album ever since, which I cannot say about Metallica. They influenced countless pure prog-metal bands. Prog related was a good choice, though 'proto prog-metal' would have been more accurate. |
Then I recommend you listen to Master of Puppets, which contains many progressive songs.
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I own MoP ever since it's release, and yes there are prog moments. Can you say the same about the Black album, Load, Reload and St-Anger ? No. Crappy albums by once a great band
Maiden have gotten more and more prog. For proof, listen to the last three, Brave New World, Dance of Death and A Matter of Life and Death. You'll find that the prog argument is strong, whereas Metallica have nothing to stand for... |
I don't agree. First of all it doesn't matter whether a band has a progressive phase and then became totally mainstream, or if they kept releasing prog albums (example: Yes, Genesis ...). And secondly I can't say that I find the later Iron Maiden albums much more progressive than Seventh Son. Maybe Brave New World, but only barely.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:43 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
A BIG definitive yes. They dabbled with prog ever since their first album, with tracks like 'The Phantom of the Opera' and 'Remember Tomorrow' and have hade prog tracks on each album ever since, which I cannot say about Metallica. They influenced countless pure prog-metal bands. Prog related was a good choice, though 'proto prog-metal' would have been more accurate. |
Then I recommend you listen to Master of Puppets, which contains many progressive songs.
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I own MoP ever since it's release, and yes there are prog moments. Can you say the same about the Black album, Load, Reload and St-Anger ? No. Crappy albums by once a great band
Maiden have gotten more and more prog. For proof, listen to the last three, Brave New World, Dance of Death and A Matter of Life and Death. You'll find that the prog argument is strong, whereas Metallica have nothing to stand for...
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richardh
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:38 |
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Seyo
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:14 |
It was already voted NO, but whoever....
Now it appeared added to PA without a strong reason, at least to my opinion. If they are prog-related, then everyone else is too...  |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:03 |
Melomaniac wrote:
A BIG definitive yes. They dabbled with prog ever since their first album, with tracks like 'The Phantom of the Opera' and 'Remember Tomorrow' and have hade prog tracks on each album ever since, which I cannot say about Metallica. They influenced countless pure prog-metal bands. Prog related was a good choice, though 'proto prog-metal' would have been more accurate. |
Then I recommend you listen to Master of Puppets, which contains many progressive songs.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:00 |
Melomaniac wrote:
A BIG definitive yes. They dabbled with prog ever since their first album, with tracks like 'The Phantom of the Opera' and 'Remember Tomorrow' and have hade prog tracks on each album ever since, which I cannot say about Metallica. They influenced countless pure prog-metal bands. Prog related was a good choice, though 'proto prog-metal' would have been more accurate. |
I agree completely, Proto Prog Metal (if this genre existed) would have been perfect, but Prog Related is a good decision.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 11:56 |
I must say I still haven't seen any healthy logic in favour of Iron Maiden having no place on the site, and since, as a member of the PMT, I endorse the decision of both the admin and my respective teams of including the band into Prog-Related, out of all categories...
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Rocktopus
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 11:45 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Please remember that they have been added to the prog related section, which means they are not classified as prog. |
You must have noticed by now that it doesn't really matter if they are only classified as related. You've seen these kinds of reactions before. They're here. Their albums are all over the front page. Its wrong.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: October 03 2006 at 11:44 |
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A BIG definitive yes. They dabbled with prog ever since their first album, with tracks like 'The Phantom of the Opera' and 'Remember Tomorrow' and have hade prog tracks on each album ever since, which I cannot say about Metallica. They influenced countless pure prog-metal bands. Prog related was a good choice, though 'proto prog-metal' would have been more accurate.
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