Zeppelin and the Occult

Pixel Pirate wrote: As someone who knows absolutely everything I'm getting very tired of explaining things to people who don't want to listen.  Therefore: I'm never getting involved in any discussion on religion or any topic even remotely connected with it ever again. People who truly believe that we are ruled by supernatural forces  belong in Darwin's waiting room and that's my last,final,completely and definitely,word on the subject.

What about sensible people who claim to have seen ghosts etc? Policemen, School masters and so forth....

Peter wrote:  Occult? Ha! Belief in the "devil," as anything other than a symbol of man's capacity to do evil, is patently ridiculous, IMO. Now, would some obliging believer please ask me why?

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WHY?

actually I know why, but I just wanted to indulge you!

 Occult? Ha!

Belief in the "devil," as anything other than a symbol of man's capacity to do evil, is patently ridiculous, IMO.

Now, would some obliging believer please ask me why?

Who is Bob Dylan?

Oh Yes 

Bob Dylan 

I´ve suffered for my music, now It´s your turn

She should have been nailed to that crossroad

Gods eye is on the sparrow, it aint the guru thats got
the answer. Its found at your bottom and its a
personal thing. True no man fully understands.
Its down at the crossroads!!!

When asked on 60 minutes the other day, Why are
you still out there performing? Bob Dylan replied
(after not interviewing for almost 20 years), I made a
deal with the devil(networks bleeped devil) to get into
the position I am in now. Im just holding up my end
of the bargain. Bob answered directly and seriously,
maybe he feels its real, but youll probably never hear
that answer again.
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I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my
knees.
I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my
knees.
Asked the Lord above for mercy, "Save me if you
please."

I went down to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride.
I went down to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride.
Nobody seemed to know me, everybody passed me
by.

I'm going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my
side.
I'm going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my
side.
You can still barrelhouse, baby, on the riverside.

You can run, you can run, tell my friend-boy Willie
Brown.
You can run, you can run, tell my friend-boy Willie
Brown.
And I'm standing at the crossroads, believe I'm
sinking down.


Edited by DallasBryan

My point is a very simple one,really:

YOU'RE ALL COMPLETELY STUPID!

And so am I. Of course there are mysteries as to the nature of existance,the very fact that the universe exists at all is a mystery,but how are a bunch of clever apes,which is all mankind is after all,going to find the answers to this? Most people can't even programme their vcr's but I'm supposed to believe that they have found the meaning of Life,The Universe and Everything? Einstein couldn't figure it out but some tv evangelist has?! The truth is: NO ONE KNOWS! No one has ever known. Because human beings are not smart enough to figure it out. These are questions that are beyond the intellectual capacity of every single human being who has ever been born,and most likely every single human being who ever will be born. Why can't people realise this? I'm supposed to believe that some priest that is not my intellectual superior in any way,has understood the greatest and most profund mysteries of all and I haven't? Stephen Hawking hasn't? Arthur C.Clarke hasn't? Richard Dawkins hasn't? These are questions that are beyond the minds of every single human being,it's an arrogance beyond belief to think that we puny,stupid,primitive primates on this little,insignificant planet have figured it all out. Who do we think we are?

So: Just leave it. There's no way we'll ever be able to figure it out,so just let it lie. If the human race persists in creating it's own truths to make up for the fact that they can't find the real answers,only war and conflict will continue to come out of it. Once again: NO ONE KNOWS! Not the Jews,not the Muslims,not the Christians,not the Hindus,NO ONE! They're all just groping blindly in the dark and making it up as they go along. Yes,there are mysteries and unexplained questions galore but it's going to take someone far more intelligent than mankind to figure them all out.

And btw. Threefates: Religion doesn't need to be corrupted by man to be evil. Religion has a remarkable capacity for closing people's minds and keeping them in a perpetual state of ignorance and prejudice without the "help" of any clergy of any kind. Taking on religion in any form is automatically accepting a set of dogmas and that is the antithesis of an informed and open mind and that to me is the true meaning of evil.

Lets see Led Zeppelin(Stairway to Heaven) believed
in God. Thats why they practiced occult, for the
benefits of the other side. So the practices of occult
by millions of people is another evidence that god is
real. Rock musicians are only evangelists for the
darkside! Wasnt Lucifer the head musician in
heaven before god cast him down for having in his
heart that his throne would ascend gods, and god
didnt have to put up with it.

Outside of Europe and the USA non belief in god is a
rarity as many whole societies are built on those
beliefs and practices. Which would confirm the
stance that the haves have not god and the have
nots have god.

Lets throw in a couple of billion christians, catholics,
muslims, hindus and buddhists. So that leaves
probably less than 5-10% of the worlds population
that denounces gods existance. So you guys find
fault with those who ascend themselves to the top of
religions and are found out to have fault and say see
god dont exist. That will not excuse or even affect
your responsibility for your actions. I think when one
can eliminate god from the picture then you can feel
a personal relief for acting like an animal.

Your given a mind and you know what it does. Your
given a **** and you know what it does. But only god
knows the heart, you cant figure it out and you show
your lack of answers daily. Science cant explain why
the heart beats, a muscle like all your other muscles.
Science cant explain the breath of life.

Why do you think all the best music, art, writings, etc
are dealing with the fate of mans soul, affairs of the
heart, heaven and hell, etc.
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When the flames have their season
Will you hold to your reason
Loaded down with your talents
Can you still keep your balance
Can you live on a knife-edge
-ELP


Edited by DallasBryan