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video vertigo
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 15:35 | |
plus mexican food is the best.
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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video vertigo
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 15:34 | |
plus you had like the biggest empire ever, and it's just a little island.
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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memowakeman
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13032 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 15:13 | |
I love my country, i like the roots of the history, i like our customs and traditions, we have beautiful zones when we can stay and enjoy the landscape, we have a very special and delicious kind of food, music.. maybe not the best, but is ok...
Like any country Mexico has awful things... insecurity, stress ,smog, bad poiticians, etc..
at least in Mexico City (where i live) , we have a mix of all that good and bad things... my city is not the best and most beautiful of my country, is so crowded and sometimes looks horrible, but one of the best poinst is our culture.
Anyway, im proud to be Mexican, because we are special and unique people!
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 14:46 | |
And without Klaas Jan Huntelaar .. ..
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Tristan Mulders
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 13:56 | |
I hope to be proud of them too... without Kalou |
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7851 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 13:49 | |
I think each country has things people can be proud of (culture, nature of ordinary people etc) and things that are national shame (past and/or present wars, political games, ...).
Anyway my answer is yes.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 12:41 | |
FYI - Marines never consider themselves to be "ex" ("One a Marine always a Marine", you know). I served twelve years in the Corps myself, but I also know that not many of the things this country has fought to 'defend' were particularly honorable or noble ventures. At the risk of sounding very mushy, I will say that I am proud to be in a place that is (or at least used to be) a symbol of the promise of freedom and possibilities. If only we can figure out the right way to act as responsible members of the human race, our country has a lot to offer. The two most amazing experiences I've ever had in my life (other than when my kids were born) were 1 - Riding the Staten Island ferry across New York Bay and seeing the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. I looked around in every direction and was humbled by the hundreds of buildings, bridges, boats, and construction, nearly all of it built in the past hundred years or so. This was all built by tens of thousands people of all races, creeds, colors, nationalities, and backgrounds. I can't describe it justly, you really just have to see it in person - it's absolutely stunning! 2 - Standing in front of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington DC on Memorial Day. Again, can't be described - has to be experienced to fully appreciate. But the point here is that one can never forget that for anything any nation does right, it also does many things wrong, and we must guard against becoming so nationalistic that we blindly assume we (Americans or anyone else) are somehow better than anyone else. You can't stand at that place and witness the total despair that so many visitors are expressing who lost pieces of their lives in that place (both Vietnamese and soldiers and their families), and ever again believe that our nation is somehow superior. I believe that any nation of people who believe that are destined to not only ultimate failure, but also destined to cause the human race as a whole to take another in a generation of steps backwards. |
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Barla
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 13 2006 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 4309 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 11:26 | |
As an Argentinian, I fell very proud of my country, mainly because of the past characters that have made progress my country over the years: Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, San Martín, Belgrano, etc. But then, unfortunately, Argentina started to decay, mainly because of corruption and things bad done, from the Perón governement up to now ... I hope someday we'll grow as a contry and we know how to fight against povety and opther problems of the society ...
And I like a lot the History of my country !!
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 11:12 | |
Well Tristan, I hope to be proud on the national team during the World Championship in Germany this summer .. !
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Tristan Mulders
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 11:07 | |
^ agreed. When I said 'no' it was mostly based on all the negative things such as slave trading we did in the past. But I also disagree with a lot of things our government is planning to do, such as kicking families out of the country, knowing that in their home country they'll be killed.
Or the kiss-ass attempts at Defence... in Afghanistan, Iraque, Sudan... As you pointed out Erik there are some good things, such as the wealth and the friendliness of most people in society and some people who are good at sports.. these are the things we should hold on to. |
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 10:16 | |
Holland is a wealthy, pleasant and tolerant country to live but "feeling any national pride", not really : we became rich by plundering and using slaves in South - and Central America, we suffered from underpression in World War II bur directly after this war we did terrible things in Indonesia in order to keep our multinational interest (oil company Shell, our royal family owns many stocks ) and at this moment we are a puppet on the strings of the right wing hawks in the USA government. More and more we look like an oversea state of the USA: money rules and everybody is focussed on material things ... But I am proud of musicans like Finch, Trace, Focus, Earth & Fire and Ayreon, painters like Vincent Van Gogh and Rembrandt and football players like Johan Cruijff, Marco Van Basten and Ruud Van Nistelrooij because our small nation has created so many creative and inventive individuals, that has something to do with the special atmosphere in Holland. |
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 10:14 | |
I'm proud to say I'm American,and I love my country.
I already put my life on the line for it,and would gladly do so again.
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Atkingani
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:37 | |
I'm more proud of my cultural background, LATIN - spiced, sometimes heavily, here and there with Amerindian (Native) and African influences.
But I love my country, many wrong things but a great potential - unfortunately it seems we are growing in the mistaken direction repeating the same errors done by others.
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Nakatira
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 31 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:31 | |
I`m not particulary proud of being a norwegian. I would say I feel lucky being born here (not because of the weather). I`ve spent a few years in a third world country and watching and talking to those people I realized that I`ve been damn lucky.
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Tony R
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:29 | |
Wales,or UK? |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:26 | |
Yes
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avestin
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:24 | |
I'm very proud of the Neutral Zone.
The best place to be.
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mystic fred
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 08:50 | |
i am very proud to be English, over hundreds of years England has managed to fight, upset, bully, exploit, help, and inspire almost every other country in the world at one time or another - i'm not sure if they love us or hate us!!
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Vompatti
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 08:46 | |
Why should I feel national pride? I just happened to be born here.
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Logos
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
Posted: May 14 2006 at 08:08 | |
Well - the question is "Do you feel ANY national pride?" In that case the question is of course Yes.
Of course I'm proud of the way this country fought for it's independence. Of course I'm also proud of our society - for example our social care and education are better than in most countries. I feel privileged to live here. On the other hand I don't want to look down on other countries and cultures and I'm not very proud of the fact that over 50% of us Finns vote Right wing. EDIT: Also the Evangelic-Lutheran Church has way too much power here. Over 80% of the population are E-L Christians and for example every company has to pay tax to the church, doesn't matter if they're members of the church or not. Evangelic-Lutherans also have exclusive right to religious programs in TV and Radio, and in schools etc. Edited by Logos - May 14 2006 at 08:16 |
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