Genesis/Yes comparison

Flying Dutchman said:

 

'Members

Gabriel v. Jon Anderson: Gabriel by a small bit.  - GABRIEL TOP FRONT MAN - ANDERSON BETTER SINGER

Steve Howe v. Steve Hackett: completely equal  - HOWE BLOWS HACKETT AWAY

Rutherford v. Squire: Squire  - YOU GOT THIS ONE RIGHT

Banks v. Wakeman: Banks by a small bit.  sort the ears out - WAKEMAN IS A GOD

Collins v. Bruford v. White: Bruford>White=Collins  -  I LOVE COLLINS - BUT BOTH BRUFORD AND WHITE ARE SUPERIOR DRUMMERS

Albums (Classic albums only)

Trespass v. Yes Album- Trespass by a small bit, but I love both.  YES ALBUM HAS MORE CLASSICS

Nursery Cryme v. Fragile- Nursery Cryme, but I think both are overrated.  FRAGILE -THE SAME AGAIN

Foxtrot v. Close to the Edge- Close to the Edge by a bit, both are awesome.  CTTE UNTOUCHABLE

Selling England v. Relayer- Relayer, but they're pretty close (both great). - THE GREAT GENESIS ALBUM

Lamb Lies Down v. Tales- Tough, both equal I think (not huge on both, but they have good moments).'  AGREE

 

BUT I just could not read all the replies because I was .  Have you been to another planet.

 

If you are a prog fan then the only keyboard player who can hold a hat to Wakeman is Emerson - both are in another league FROM EVERYONE and if you dont agree then its

Phil wrote: Right! Let's put you all right on this Banks v Wakeman nonsense..... Composition skills: Banks >> Wakeman Keyboard skills: Wakeman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Banks OK?

When Banks can individually produce classic works like Six Wives, Journey, King Arthur and Criminal record I might start to take your oppinion much more seriously!

Winter Wine, we do it because it's fun, nothing else.

raindance Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 292	Posted: March 16 2006 at 02:22 | IP Logged Anderson ***** Gabriel**** Horn ** Bruford*****White***Collins***1/2 Wakeman*****Downes****Kaye***1/2 Banks***1/2 Howe***** Banks**1/2 Rabin**** Hackett**** Phillips*** Squire***** Rutherford****   The YES Album ***** Tresspass*** Fragile ***** Nursery Cryme *** CTTE ***** Foxtrot ***1/2 Relayer ***** SEBTP **** TFTO **** The Lamb ***1/2
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Tommy Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 173	Posted: March 16 2006 at 02:47 | IP Logged ANDERSON>GABRIEL HOWE>HACKETT BRUFORD>COLLINS SQUIRE>RUTHERFORD WAKEMAN>BANKS TYA>TRESSPASS FRAGILE>NURSERY CRYME CTTE>FOXTROT [By a mile] RELAYER>SEBTP[By two miles] TFTO>LAMB[By 1000 000 miles]

Interesting, as soon as the votes are counted,, fanboys attack, Yes all the way, no points for Genesis, sure Genesis must be a very crappy band, then why are they in the top 10 with 4 albums?

I'd loove to see how Wakeman will vote in Tales vs The Lamb

But...Who cares?

Iván

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Winter Wine wrote: I was going to give a well detailed, Thought out response, When I noticed, This thread is stupid! I've been reading down through so many ridiculous, unnecessary comparisons! Both bands are fantastic and have made music that very few can equal! never mind better! If you have any respect for either bands music, You'll stop treating their work like two dogs chasing a bunny. It's getting very stupid.

Of course! You are absolutely right, but...it's great fun turning it into a sort of 5-a-side soccer final!!

sleeper wrote: For me its easy, I profer Genesis over Yes but as they are completely different bands its not easy to compare them. In terchnicall abilaty Yes are just ahead of Genesis but Genesis composed songs better than any other band, ever. Besides, the sound Chris Squire gets from his bass really anoys me, and as a bassist that ruins the record a bit for me.

 

I agree that both bands are completely different but has anyone noticed their similarity on the Spot The Pigeon EP.  The song Inside and Out is almost Yes pastiche, you could mistake Steve Hackett for Steve Howe on that one.  It's the instrumental bit at the end.

I'm surprised so many people prefer Bruford to Collins. Bruford is certainly more Jazzy and different, a bit more laid back and less in your face, but Collins drums are more boombastic and quite often define a song, particularly in later Genesis.

Depends on what mood I'm in at the time really. Although Cinema show always does it for me.

Tales wrote: Classic era YES [All members] vrs classic era Genesis [All members]. I have to go with YES in every department. Also every classic YES period album is far better than any classic Genesis period album! So, in every departrment YES>GENESIS.

You are so right Tales, although, it does all smack of my dad is bigger than your dad syndrome doesn't it? Are you the same Tales that was on the Dutch Prog site a few years ago if so you will enjoy this site much better. People actually talk on here and respond to both intelligent points and highly stupid ones as well

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Classic era YES [All members] vrs classic era Genesis [All members]. I have to go with YES in every department.

Also every classic YES period album is far better than any classic Genesis period album!

So, in every departrment YES>GENESIS.

• Anderson ***** Gabriel**** Horn **
• Bruford*****White***Collins***1/2
• Wakeman*****Downes****Kaye***1/2 Banks***1/2
• Howe***** Banks**1/2 Rabin**** Hackett**** Phillips***
• Squire***** Rutherford****

 

• The YES Album ***** Tresspass***
• Fragile ***** Nursery Cryme ***
• CTTE ***** Foxtrot ***1/2
• Relayer ***** SEBTP ****
• TFTO **** The Lamb ***1/2

There is a bit of concensus, but still much ambiguity:

Gabriel > Anderson
Howe > Hackett
Banks > Wakeman
Squire > Rutherford
Bruford > Collins > White

Albums are more sketchy
Yes Album > Trespass
Fragile = Nursery Cryme
Foxtrot = CttE
Selling > Relayer
Lamb > Tales

Not perfect by any means, but that's the general breakdown to now.