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Poll Question: Nominate one song/piece and vote for three
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Out of competition:





This film ("Mediterraneo" by Gabriele Salvatore, starring Diego Abatantuono) marked a generation of Italians.

It won the Oscar for best foreign film, thanks to the stereotype of Italians unable to make war.

The director was friend with most of the actors, they started with the theater, with cabaret, in Milan.

In the film, a Turk makes Italian soldiers smoke and then steals their weapons. Smoking what? We do not know, but obviously from the way they laugh it was not just tobacco. And the lieutenant later said: Isn't it better if everyone brings us this smoke and steals our weapons?

The director said in an interview that this was the message of the film: it is better to smoke cannabis in company than to use weapons. And it is likely that the actors in the film actually smoked cannabis.

In the video, the music of the film, the Greek Sirtaki.
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My first suggestion is Iness Mezel - Amazone.

Iness Mezel is a French-Algerian musician. In this rather hypnotic track she mixes north African instrumentation with rock guitar. It makes for quite an interesting musical experience.




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Suggestion no. 3:

Dissòi Logòi: Delfini
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From Tunisia (2nd suggestion):

Dhafer Youssef: 39th Gülay (to Istanbul) (Album: Birds Requiem, 2013)

Some of you may know this excellent and versatile jazz musician but there is always someone you can surprise. Enjoy!

p.s. Anders, I will add this to my first post on page 1 to make things easier for you.



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Here's Italian avant-prog band Zu collaborating with guitarist Eugene Chadbourne on a classic song. Approach with caution. 
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Number 2: Napoli centrale - Campagna
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^ Yes, it is the same track, thanks!
Tarmac is the group name of the duo Arnaud Samuel and Gaëtan Roussel who were before in the group Louise Attack (that disbanded), so it is no surprise that Louise Attack is not mentioned...

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@Kees:
The Tarmac video doesn't work for me, this one does. But I'm not sure whether it's the thing you mean because it doesn't mention Louise Attack.

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Hmm, looking at the weather forecast I might take a dive into the Mediterranean one of these coming days...

For my selection I'm staying close to home: France. However, the music might make you travel a bit further.
First a duo that came out of the - here - very popular group Louise Attack: Tarmac - Notre époque:



(original and translated lyrics here)


Next, maybe more typical "French", maybe not. A group that goes by the name "Debout sur le zinc" (Standing on the Bar): Debout sur le zinc - Les moutons (The Sheep):



(original and translated lyrics here)


And then a band that I've been suggesting before: Orange Blossom - Yazaman (A Long Time Ago):



(original and translated lyrics here)

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@Christian, the map is actually an answer to your general question: "How Mediterranean are the Balkans?"

As for your chosen song "Ederlezi", this is a song of the orthodox Roma living in the Balkans. The song is about their biggest holiday which they celebrate on St. George's day, 6. May each year. St. George is the patron-saint of the orthodox Roma. They consider this song their anthem, so to speak. The film clip shows this very celebration.- In Les-Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer in the French Provence the Catholic Roma celebrate in a similar way, also in May. In this respect, the origin of Bregovich is not relevant really. Folk music is an important source of inspiration for him.- And yes, Bosnia and Herzegovina does have access to the Adriatic Sea. It is a narrow corridor that once was part of the Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik). The Ottomans had thereby gained access to the Adriatic Sea.



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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

How mediterraenean are the Balkans actually?
Anyway, here's some Goran Bregovic.
Ederlezi...
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I LOVE EDERLEZI

Months ago, perhaps a year ago, a nomination of mine was:



(In the end I chose another song)




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Mila: Yeah... Bregovic is Bosnian-Herzegovian as far as I know, and I now found a stretch of Mediterranean coast of that country, so he should qualify if we go for this criterion. Just about, on some maps it looks as if they don't touch the sea, but then Bregovic is on record for declaring himself nostalgic Yugoslavian, and then there's no doubt. Note that the term Balkan Peninsula in itself is contested these days, and "Mediterranean" not perfectly well defined either when referring to people living on land rather than the sea, but anyway, none of this is probably of any importance here as it is always the music that speaks to us. Smile


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How mediterraenean are the Balkans actually?
Anyway, here's some Goran Bregovic.
Ederlezi...
...and as an encore the theme of Black Cat White Cat.
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From Cyprus:

Monsieur Doumani - Alavrostishiotis (Album: Pissourin, 2021)

Coming from different musical backgrounds, but influenced by the Cypriot tradition at various levels, Monsieur Doumani compose music that draws inspiration from contemporary Cypriot society as well as from the shaky conditions of our era. The initial identity of the project was determined by the adaptation of Cypriot traditional pieces, with a special contemporary colour in sound and mood, forming a style distinctively of their own. With their fourth record Pissourin (2021) they push their trademark Mediterranean sonics into a deep psychedelic and avant-folk direction.

This performance of their song "Alvatrostishiotis" was filmed at Kourion. Kourion was an important city-kingdom in antiquity and stands as one of the most impressive archeological sites in Cyprus. I may change the song later but to start with, I wanted to bring here the images and atmosphere of this unique and beautiful Mediterranean island.

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From Tunisia:

Dhafer Youssef: 39th Gülay (to Istanbul) (Album: Birds Requiem, 2013)

Some of you may know this excellent and versatile jazz musician but there is always someone you can surprise. Enjoy!

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From Spain:


An Andalusian rock band formed in Seville in 2017 with varied influences such as flamenco, psychedelic rock, progeressive rock and stoner rock.

The song is from their debut, selftitled album which was released in 2019. The lyrics are based on a poem by Federico Garcia Lorca. This song has been performed before by Camaron de la Isla, considered by many the best contemporary flamenco singer ever. He passed away in 1992 at the age of just 41.



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Oh Oh, The Anders, you invite me to my land!



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Dont miss this video


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This is the one for me, thank you Anders! But where should I start? I'll take a look at my collection. Let me see what I can find for you guys. Smile



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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

^ Well there's a lot to choose from. It could be, say, Spanish flamenco, Italian prog, a particular composer or band, any folk music tradition, north African or Middle Eastern music cultures. Just to name a few options. There are many more or course.

ok, thank you, I'll see what I can do. 
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^ Well there's a lot to choose from. It could be, say, Spanish flamenco, Italian prog, a particular composer or band, any folk music tradition, north African or Middle Eastern music cultures. Just to name a few options. There are many more or course.


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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

So is it music from the Mediterranean countries? Or is this some kind of a specific sound? 

 



It is music from Mediterranean countries, or music with Mediterranean influence in one way or another. Like I said, there are no genre restrictions Smile

I still don't know what a "Mediterranean influence" is. Confused
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