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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I didn't even pay attention to the pianists name. EmbarrassedLOL it's Chopin nocturne. I didn't know this nocturne had an alternative name ("A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré"). I had Chopin on vinyl and I have the nocturnes on CD, never seen that title. You'll have to read about the life of Chopin if you want to know more, I guess.

Lots of musicians did sponsored works (as well as painters, of course), and of course, they also did works for people they knew, in one way or another, that they were more naturally inspired by.  Many of O'Carolan's harp pieces were sponsored, for instance.

When they are so titled, I always wonder about the people, I'll see if I can find out anything about her, only had a chance for a cursory search so far today.  Similarly, when I have an old book that is inscribed to someone I didn't know, I am curious about both the gifter and the giftee.  


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I didn't even pay attention to the pianists name. EmbarrassedLOL it's Chopin nocturne. I didn't know this nocturne had an alternative name ("A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré"). I had Chopin on vinyl and I have the nocturnes on CD, never seen that title. You'll have to read about the life of Chopin if you want to know more, I guess.

Lots of musicians did sponsored works (as well as painters, of course), and of course, they also did works for people they knew, in one way or another, that they were more naturally inspired by.  Many of O'Carolan's harp pieces were sponsored, for instance.

When they are so titled, I always wonder about the people, I'll see if I can find out anything about her, only had a chance for a cursory search so far today.  Similarly, when I have an old book that is inscribed to someone I didn't know, I am curious about both the gifter and the giftee.  

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:


Cristi:  · François Chaplin Nocturne in C Minor, Op. 48 No. 1: "A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré" Beautiful solo piece.  Begins somberly, but becomes more decorated, and then, a bit dramatic.  I can’t help but wonder about the subject.  Was she a tempestuous child, or a woman?  Young, certainly, as “mademoiselle,” would indicate.  Piece flows back into a more emotive portion, perhaps the storm has been averted?  Then all becomes, although still complicated, much more graceful again, to the end.  Lovely. 

I didn't even pay attention to the pianist's name. EmbarrassedLOL it's a Chopin nocturne. I didn't know this nocturne had an alternative name ("A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré"). I had Chopin on vinyl and I have the nocturnes on CD, never seen that title. You'll have to read about the life of Chopin if you want to know more, I guess. 




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Cristi:  · François Chaplin Nocturne in C Minor, Op. 48 No. 1: "A Mademoiselle Laure Duperré" Beautiful solo piece.  Begins somberly, but becomes more decorated, and then, a bit dramatic.  I can’t help but wonder about the subject.  Was she a tempestuous child, or a woman?  Young, certainly, as “mademoiselle,” would indicate.  Piece flows back into a more emotive portion, perhaps the storm has been averted?  Then all becomes, although still complicated, much more graceful again, to the end.  Lovely. 

Tapfret:  Dokaka Cover of “Fracture” A piece I am very familiar with from KC.  Here it is taken on purely vocally and quite well, although a bit higher pitched (at least the underlying repeating part).  When it breaks into the ascending chords part (as I think of it), the pitch seems lower to me, but unmistakenly the piece of music.  Very ambitious, although I do prefer the original, it’s very cleverly done.  Dokaka Cover of “Sir Duke,” This Stevie Wonder song I remember as well, this is closer in pitch to my ear. Dokaka Cover of Metallica’s “Creeping Death” This one is also well done, certainly recognizably the song and not quite so high in pitch, although there is kind of an Alvin and the Chipmunks feel to these.  I like KC the best, not only because I love the original, but since it was no doubt quite the challenge.


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I think I will stand by the Housefly as my nomination. It is true that showing a handful of the "piano insects" instead of just one might give a better picture of what the work as a whole is about. But then I have already done that since I shared four of them in my first post.


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A compromise would be the video that I posted on the previous page. The piece is split in two parts/videos. It's a live performance, though.

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I'm totally good with just picking one of the insects. In a poll where usually few entries are shorter than 4-5 minutes, an ultra-short piece would clearly stand out just because of that, besides, anyone who wishes to listen to the entire work can always do so.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Oh... Not sure... But wouldn't it be weird, kind of? I'd say the entire thing or a single part of it would seem normal. 
Well, in order to hear what the idea of that composition is about 2-3 of those little pieces would be sufficient (duration between 0:40 - 1:45 each). Each of them representing one insect species. 12 min seems however a bit lengthy. I don't know whether or not a video including the whole composition is even available and in good quality. But it's not my entry. It's up to you guys. 



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^ Oh... Not sure... But wouldn't it be weird, kind of? I'd say the entire thing or a single part of it would seem normal. 
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ I think of "rejecting" only parts of the tracks, like a piano solo inside a song, oops track. Big smile I changed my word "song" with "track". So I believe what Anders shared there are all tracks and eligible.
I think we are talking past each other. The question is, is it possible to make out of 2-3 of those tiny little pieces one entry? They are all part of one opus, consisting of 9 puzzles, titled "Insectarium".The total length of that composition is about 12 min.



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^ I think of "rejecting" only parts of the tracks, like a piano solo inside a song, oops track. Big smile I changed my word "song" with "track". So I believe what Anders shared there are all tracks and eligible.

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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Well, Anders, short tracks are still tracks (though not always songs Tongue). So, all the 4 tracks you put here are eligible for nomination.

Given that these very short piano pieces are part of one single musical work I think that by accepting only one of them we'll get to hear just a fragment of a very original opus. And that's what they are, they are not musical pieces in the common sense, not even "movements" of a composition in the classic sense. And indeed, the Insektarium was also described as "9 Puzzle Pictures for Piano". I found a live performance of the entire work divided into two parts/videos (part one, duration 6:28. Part two, duration 6:53). That might be another option? Even though, in fact there is not much of a difference in selecting freely 2-3 of those musical puzzles imo.




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I stand by the Housefly as my nomination.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Nickie

I am not familiar with the Pentangles even though I have read very good things about them.

Of your three songs, the first seems to me the most difficult, with only the voice of the female interpreter, austere, perhaps a little monotone. 

The second song is a very lively virtuoso piece on guitar with Renaissance reminiscences, very pleasant. 

The third song is the only one that combines voice and guitar, and perhaps for this reason it seems the most accessible, but it is very melancholy and characterized by the very, very English voice of Jansch: all this gives the folk mark to the piece. 

They are all short pieces very close to the traditional English-Scottish ones, I think the second piece has a more prog sensibility, the third has a more songwriter-style, I don't know which one to choose between the two.
  Very good discussion of the three pieces.  Jacqui McShee's voice does have more range, however, in keeping with the traditional tune, it is more in one mode.  

I highly recommend their piece Jack Orion, if you've not heard it, the original version from their "Cruel Sister," release, which illustrates exactly why they are in PA under Prog Folk.  All three plus Terry Cox on percussion and the wonderful Danny Thompson on bass guitars were just a powerhouse, imo.  

I was going to choose a different John Renbourn solo piece from the same recording (The Moon Shines Bright), but this is a very showy piece.  I've seen him live in a very small club in Northern California and alone, he sounded like he was playing two guitars at times.

Bert Jansch is from Scotland, he and a young Donovan went to London together in the 60's.  Donovan wrote the song Bert's Blues about him.  This release is my favourite of his solo works, along with the beautiful release of "Avocet," which featured Martin Jenkins on violin.  The way that he pours the Scottish on thick in this piece really makes it sound to me as if this is the way you would have heard the piece sung in it's time. The English version was first printed in 1611, but it's unknown how old it actually is.  Lyrics in English and also this version, the Scottish one, are in this wiki, for those who want to figure out what the heck he's singing.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Ravens *Warning, it's a bit gruesome*





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I am not familiar with the Pentangles even though I have read very good things about them.

Of your three songs, the first seems to me the most difficult, with only the voice of the female interpreter, austere, perhaps a little monotone. 

The second song is a very lively virtuoso piece on guitar with Renaissance reminiscences, very pleasant. 

The third song is the only one that combines voice and guitar, and perhaps for this reason it seems the most accessible, but it is very melancholy and characterized by the very, very English voice of Jansch: all this gives the folk mark to the piece. 

They are all short pieces very close to the traditional English-Scottish ones, I think the second piece has a more prog sensibility, the third has a more songwriter-style, I don't know which one to choose between the two.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I always love to read your comments, Nicky. Unfortunately these days there's so much going on at work that I'm happy to just take part but probably won't write much except voting...

Keeps me in practice, Christian. Smile  I do love to read other's comments on the pieces, but know it does take a chuck on time to not only listen to all, but take time to comment.  
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

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I'm glad you liked this romantic and intimate song by Ivano Fossati, an author much loved by Italian women for lyrics (and music) like these. "The construction of love breaks the veins of the hands, mixes blood with sweat, if any remains. It is like a sand altar by the sea." These words (sung with his suffering vicals on the piano) are enough to express admiration for this song.

It is a very moving song, thank you for bringing it.  
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I always love to read your comments, Nicky. Unfortunately these days there's so much going on at work that I'm happy to just take part but probably won't write much except voting...
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@Nickie

I'm glad you liked this romantic and intimate song by Ivano Fossati, an author much loved by Italian women for lyrics (and music) like these. "The construction of love breaks the veins of the hands, mixes blood with sweat, if any remains. It is like a sand altar by the sea." These words (sung with his suffering vicals on the piano) are enough to express admiration for this song.

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^ Well, Anders, short tracks are still tracks (though not always songs Tongue). So, all the 4 tracks you put here are eligible for nomination.
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