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Logan 
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While I alreday loved Exuma, I might follo your guidelines and not vote for it because I have had the first two Exuma albums for many years and listened to them so many times.
Had I gone with Exuma, this would have been my choice: That Exuma album and Dr. John, The Night Tripper's Gris-Gris, which Micky mentioned the I think superb "I Walk on Guilded Splinters" from the album as his out of competition choice have similarities. The album that my Lula Côrtes & Zé Ramalho choice is off I one that I would think has similar qualities to Exuma and Gris-Gris. my out of competition choice is a lovely song off a quite weird album. I have yet to listen through the choices, I should get going. I do know plenty of Kronos Quartet material, but I don't think I know that one. |
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First impressions on all of the regular entrants, while I make up my mind on final 3. And again, you are all so great at this, it is very hard to come to a decision on just 3. Which is partly why it's so fun.
Francesco Guccini - Scirocco ~ I enjoyed
this one, on first listen, the singer sounded a little strident to me, second
time around, less so. I used a
translator for the lyrics. A sort of sad
story. I like the use of accordion or
concertina, brings the café feel into the song. I watch clouds a lot (mentioned
in the lyrics). A contender. Also bonus points for the beautiful Tango
video you posted. Djavan (w/The Manhattan Transfer) – Capim ~ Nice, laid back kind of happy feel with this one. Listening to those voices, wow, what a blend! I like the effect, but the piece is a little “happier,” than I usually like. Extra points, though for introducing me to Shearwater. Inti Illimani - A La Caza del Nandů ~ Oh, I just love this. Complex guitar work, lovely ornamentation with the violin, the Andean pipes, brass and flute, punctuated by the percussion Dynamically engaging . Certainly a contender. Another new and wonderful alternate selection, Waters of March, as well. Tribe of Gypsies - Admit It ~ Captivating Latin
rock….This would go over very big in my second home town of Santa Cruz. Also a little “happier,” than what I usually
do like, but it’s very appealing. Possibly a contender. Carlos Reyes - Niko's Rumba ~ My entry Kronos Quartet & APiazzolla - Five Tango
Sensations: Anxiety ~ Definitely felt the “anxiety,” in the name in parts. Kept my interest engaged, where would they go
next? How would they get there? A contender.
Metalachi, Crazy Fun! Exuma - Exuma, the Obeah Man ~ Really an interesting piece. Like the different animal noises in it,
really get a feeling of eavesdropping into an Obeah ritual. Some of the melody of the chorus reminded me
of Stevie Wonder’s “Living For The City.”
This preceded that song.
Anyway. The most unexpected entry
for me, in thinking of Latin America.
Points for that, certainly. Vijver Hauser Orkater - Dichtgevroren ~ I love the
translated lyrics! I’m not so fond of
the piece, itself. But the music does go
well with the lyrics, sort of absurdist in feel. Not a contender for me though, but certainly
outside of what I would listen to normally, so made me think. Meta Meta – Logun ~ Enjoyed this one….moved right
along and swept me with it. I was not as
fond of the first singer as I was the music…..Until the backup singers came
in. Then I loved that part. Then the female singer was fabulous. Am going to listen some more, this could be a
grows on me contender. Working Week - Vinceremos (7'' Edit) ~ Nice blend of
styles here. Again, too “happy,” for me,
overall, despite it’s appeal with it’s complexity. Stan Getz and Jao Gilberto - O Grande Amor ~ There
was not much that I knew in this bunch, but this one I do know (I know, you’re
all surprised),, so am holding it aside from voting. My mom had a big Stan Getz collection, so
happily, this reminds me of her, therefore, points for that. 😊 Chicoria Sánchez - Tonada por Despedida ~ Love this.
Solo acoustic guitar is so beautiful.
This sounds almost simple, but it’s the ability of the guitarist that
makes it seem so. A contender. Alexandre Klinke – Lugar ~ This one moved right along,
liked his voice and the rhythms. A
potential contender. Rodrigo y Gabriela- Hanuman ~ Very familiar with
them, so not going to put them into the vote.
But I do love what they do. Doug Sahm - Medocino ~
This one, going to not vote…..although
I’d said I might. I will have more to
say, though, when I post my votes, which I’m trying to figure out. Also enjoyed your potentials. Lula Côrtes & Zé Ramalho - Trilha De Sumé ~ Made
me think of Jefferson Airplane’s, “Lather,” with the buzzing kind of
sound. Hypnotic kind of tribalistic sounds,
at least to my ear. Your out of
competition entry, has that pretty, melancholy kind of sound that my ear
enjoys. Perhaps a contender, as it’s so
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:16 |
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Other impressions:
6) Quartet with Piazzolla: Given that I love Piazzolla and tango nuevo, this makes me a listener very well predisposed to this music. However, this piece does not excite me. It is a song where the tango nuevo moves towards classical music, in fact there is a string quartet to accompany the Piazzolla bandoneon, and the music is based on rhythm, there is no main melody, except in the instrumental digressions, those of the violin and the bandoneon, which I like better when playing solo than the ensemble. The rhythm very marked by the strings, and the melody that does not take off, I must confess, make listening difficult. It is music that approaches contemporary classical music almost a little dissonant. 7) Exuma: This is tribal music that sounds completely new to my ears. Considering the year of production, we could consider it proto-prog or afro-Caribbean prog: perhaps we should open this category here on PA. In reality the song cannot be assimilated to the prog because it continues with the same identical rhythm from start to finish. The basis of the music is the rhythm and the hoarse singing of the singer, who resembles certain blues or funky singers and in fact reminds me of James Brown. It's a piece that amused me but I think I appreciate it more as a dance rather than as a music. I don't think he will reach the podium. 8) Hauser Orkater is an interesting hybrid between a military march and a tango. It looks like a cabaret song, very theatrical, with the most recited lyrics that you sing. Musically it does not seem exciting to me, but it has a grotesque flavor from the top and perhaps close to the absurd theater that makes it interesting. I don't know if it may be a contender to the podium. 9) Metŕ Metŕ - Logun. I'm not a fan of samba and Brazilian dance in general, but this piece is a highly contaminated hybrid, where there are perhaps too many sonic suggestions, from the Caribbean winds, to the syncopated rhythm, and to the sound orgy, which becomes almost cacophony . There is a lot of meat on the fire, and a lot of smoke. I think this piece is almost a jam between the blues and the samba, and that it could be considered prog, maybe jazz-rock fusion, after all it could be assimilated to Santana but in the Brazilian sense. Great sound impact, emphatic, a little sensationalistic but decidedly creative. Here, I feel the inspiration behind all these changes of rhythm and arrangements. There is inspiration and there is also a little too much chaos that almost hides it, the group tends to overdo it, I don't know if there is the right word in English to express myself. Anyway, it's a remarkable song, and at the moment it's the best, in my opinion, among the ones I've heard. I could put it ALMOST on the same level as Scirocco, where Guccini is more melodic and refined and this is more orchestrated and with great sound impact. This is more bombastic, Guccini is thiner. |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:49 |
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you were around for the real epic years.. this was kids play .. and decidedly more recent.. last year or two.
I think I remember who it was.. or perhaps not.. they are sort of run together and are like those little yeapping dogs who nip at your ankes and the only possible kindness you can show them is restraing the urge to kick them through some imagined uprights... ie... the generic bobbleheaded Genesis fanboy moron this forum has FAR too many of  |
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Posted: June 27 2020 at 10:14 |
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Hey Lorenzo, allow me to post out-of-competition this one thing that your post and song somehow reminded me, and that I LOVE and would love to show you (and if I wait to the next 'Latin' poll I'll never post it) ...for what I barely know you, you're a passionate guy.. This could easily be the single latin thing I like the most  Is by Uruguayan Alfredo Zitarrosa. This stuff makes me cry... I'm a guitar guy and the guitar is simply beautiful... it tells mainly 'fields'/country ("campo") stories.. sad ones.. and the lyrics are BEAUTIFUL! This one in particular is not composed by him; it's mexican, but I surely like this one better than the original. It's about a nephew who stumbles upon his "padrino" in the city.. where he is working unloading a wagon and drinking wine.. they haven't seen each other in years.. and the uncle asks him not to tell anybody that he's here, and tells him his wife passed away, the boys grew up and left, and he lost the harvest.. and there's nothing left for him in the field. Then the nephew departs relating beautiful and vivid memories of his uncle in the beautiful scenery of the fields where he lived. Edited by Machinemessiah - June 27 2020 at 10:33 |
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Hey! thanks for that Raff.. it seems I missed the most epic years! haha I wonder who could have been the one with the definition..  I think I could adhiere to it.. (on the critical side) though it depends what we're talking about.. I like my adventurous stuff no doubt, I'm big on Zappa.. on the classical side I like my 1900's.. but not the stuff that are mostly only sounds.. PD: The definition can include cheetah's with metal things in the head isn't it? |
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figured you would have.. it was a modern classic
As much as I did love the album.. never really did get into any of their later albums.. I think by that time in my life I had really started my Leaving Los Vegas years of prolonged years of self abuse and gravitated toward music that fed that path to self destruction... jazz and the blues.. in particular Billy Holliday whom I discovered via my dealer and part time ...ummm g/f |
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hahah... you know missed that first time.... the only thing that kept your alternative song from being written in as a top 3 vote...was the broad not taking a drag from the smoke she fired up during the instrumental break... now that is old school....
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you all rule..
absoltely BRUTAL.. in many cases the alts were as good as the voting options.. a couple were they were better IMO will need several listens to hammer out a top 3.. but one sort of really stood out and is pretty much the clear #1 great choice Greg.. musically.. by far the most interesting to me... that f**king ruled. otherrs of particular note in running the Guccini, Rodrigo and Gabriela, Carlos Reyes, and the Stan Getz were the tops through the first listen likely will take several more listens in full before settling on a top 3. |
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I know that one well. Had thought of that over Metalachi but thought they would be better know. Seen those guys live a few times back in the day and even in "disco" era when Tortelvis had left the band. I was probably one of few who liked the disco stuff, but maybe a bit too much too fuse Zep, BeeGees, Elvis vocals, and reggae: |
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that's pretty hot man..
I always wanted to learn how to Tango.. never really had the opportunity.. I was sort of restricted by jukebox selections (usually Foghat  ) in dive and biker bars....and don't think the tops of pool tables were really suitable to trying to tango anyway.. |
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oh I LOVE this.. as you can tell as you watch me dancing around the dining room... |
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GUCCINI: "SCIROCCO" my review The instrumental beginning, almost a minute, is perhaps the best part of the whole song: it begins with Tavolazzi's jazz double bass solo, then the fantastic bandoneon played by Mosalini, and a beautiful atmosphere of tango nuevo is created, that is, of tango mixed with jazz; then the melody arrives, strengthened by the acoustic guitar of Biondini (Italian-Argentine guitarist) and finally the singing of Guccini, pasty, which begins with: "Do you remember? the streets were full of that shiny Scirocco wind, which transforms an abusive reality and makes it unreal ", and then: "you, sitting at a French poet's table, with your usual face open to doubts and a routine red wine inside the glass ". In the second verse, which is amplified by Vince Tempera's piano, Guccini sings: "She arrived hurriedly, dancing in the pink of a gingham dress that wrapped her hips .... and I knew how you felt squeezed between her and that one another that you did not know how to leave, between your two children, and both moral ... " The song speaks of a man who sees his lover at the bar, while sipping red wine. They talk. How's it going? After two verses the music changes, the chorus arrives and the music rears up (and here we imagine the two tango dancers who speed up their dance and give vent to passionate steps), the music becomes faster, the percussions arrives, the bandoneon plays almost syncopated and Guccini sings: "She stood up, with a final gesture, then left without looking back, while that wind filled her with impossible memories, confusion and images", and thus the musical crescendo ends, followed by a syncopated instrumental piece (where tango dancers would change figures, and give vent to virtuosity), which brings back the melancholy atmosphere. She is gone, he was undecided between her and his wife and she left him. And in fact in the next piece, a bridge, perhaps another peak of the song, with an excellent singing, Guccini says: "he remained as someone who no longer knows what to do, still looking for a positive solution, but it is better then one day only to remember than to fall back into an always identical reality ". On these words of Guccini the musical crescendo ends, and here is the moral of the poet: better to remember that one day of farewell than to go on forever with an always identical reality, that is two women without knowing who to choose. Another instrumental detachment with Mosalini who makes virtuosity and Tavolazzi's double bass to hit like a hammer (and again, the tango dancers have the chance to do wonderful steps) and finally comes the third and last verse, melancholy: the epilogue, in which the poet sings that he does not know how the woman has adjusted his life, while the man is left alone (did his wife leave him too?) and in the evening he is attached to his red wine routinely. And away with the last instrumental piece, where there is all the poignant melancholy of the tango nuevo and describe this story, which could be a short film. |
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ahhh man.. perhaps a good thing I didn't see your post before I started tossing off suggestions.. this might have been my choice... the king of themed novelty. GOD DAMN did I kill some brain cells to this album back in the day |
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Now this "pan-head" bit needs some explanation
 . We owe the definition to one of our forum members (no names mentioned), who meant is as a slur against people who like the more avant-garde fringes of progressive rock. According to him, fans of RIO/Avant prog like wearing pans on their heads, and hitting them with wooden spoons to produce sounds they will then rave about. As I do like a lot lof RIO/Avant stuff, I suppose I am a panhead myself, though I am not in the habit of wearing pans on my head . A couple of fellow RIO/Avant fans have avatars or signatures that refer to this panhead stuff. |
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I just entered the pre-voting stage. No bad picks at all, many good ones and two are obviously at the top of my ranking: Inti Illimani and Francesco Guccini. The #3 would be Kronos Quartet, Meta Meta, Working Week, Chicoria Sánchez or Alexandre Klinke: not an easy choice.
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of the highly caffeinated sort!! starting my listens.. and man oh man.. if Lorenzo's choice is any indication this will be as rough as week was in trying to decide. Loving this... and yeah you nailed it arrangement over lyrics any day. That was what made the De Andre/PFM albums so fricking great.
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yeah the pan heads and traditionalist prog fans have at times... sort of butted heads here.. most of the time good natured.. but at times it hasn't been
glad you liked that stuff.. really looking forward to what you all put out. I know what I know but outside of what Raff posted.. I probably knew very very little of what others posted. |
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Haha funny.. it was the other extreme! Hey Micky good picks there.. the Tito Puente stuff very fun and catchy… And the Tex-Mex thing.. it sure has its vibe man.. I like country too, as a concept, though only know the most mainstream.. Edited by Machinemessiah - June 26 2020 at 21:30 |
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