The Dark Side of the Moon

Dellinger wrote: All of them pre Dark Side of the Moon, including one that includes the early version of the album live, when On The Run was still sort of a jamming song still with music, instead of just atmosphere, and before the female vocals were added to The Great Gig in the Sky. It's an interesting listen.

Syd Barrett was very innovative in the sense that he created a new idea for Psychedelic Music by combining a style of children's literature with Rock. John Lennon had in fact previously written and recorded songs of that nature, but no more than 1 or 2 per album..where Syd Barrett had gone the distance by writing 5 or 6 songs in that style for an album..to give the album personality. Then he put together "Astromony Domine" and "Interstellar Overdrive" which have been classified Psychedelic, however I view both pieces as the beginnings of "Space Rock" The obvious proof is in the music of Hawkwind, Gong, Amon Duul II, and several other European bands..where the similarities of what they were writing were tied into Syd Barrett's sound and ideas. He wasn't a virtuoso type of musician, but he was a creator in that aspect. He had inventive ideas. He listened to the AMMM Music album and produced some of the sounds of that album for the closing of "Bike". After his breakdown he released 2 solo albums. It's been stated in a documentary that "If Syd had remained with Pink Floyd..you couldn't imagine what he would have written " or that no one could have predicted that. I don't see it that way because "Dominoes" would have fallen nicely between "San Tropez" and "Seamus" on Meddle. "Golden Hair" would have been perfect between "If" and "Fat Old Sun" on Atom Heart Mother. "Baby Lemonade " between "Fat Old Sun" and "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast " and there's other examples, you just have to edit the recordings for that sequence and then listen to the albums in their entirety. If someone would go into a state of the art recording studio and record the song "Opel" with a choir, bass, guitar, keyboards, and drums it would be telling. It would be like an epic Pink Floyd song in the 70s, perhaps fitting for The Wall. The song could then blossom and show the full potential of his writing.

moshkito wrote: (btw ... video unavailable outside Australia!) (It's gotta be the pandemic, right?) ... we have a pretty good idea of where the band is going in order to be able to make the connection from Syd's music to the band's music with David Gilmour, ...

Hugh Manatee wrote: I just watched Brian Johnson-A Life on the Road featuring Nick Mason: Series 1 Episode 3 Nick Mason : ABC iview and a contraversial thought occured to me. I wonder if Pink Floyd would have become the force they have become if Syd Barrett had remained with them and David Gilmour never bacame involved, Gilmours guitar being such an integral (and appreciated) part of their sound. I now duck and take cover.

No, I definitley don't think the band would have achieved what they achieved. Barrett would have kept too much control, so Waters contributions would have been much less, and David's obviously wouldn't have existed... perhaps Wright's contributions would have remained very similar, but without the input from Gilmour or Waters some of the songs he gave his ideas to (like Echoes) would have been very different. And Barrett certainly wouldn't have been able to give Floyd the beautiful guitar sound that Gilmour did.

One of the interesting points that Mason makes about Barrett walking away from Pink Floyd is that it wasn't only about his LSD intake apparently.

Hugh Manatee wrote: I just watched Brian Johnson-A Life on the Road featuring Nick Mason: Series 1 Episode 3 Nick Mason : ABC iview and a contraversial thought occured to me. I wonder if Pink Floyd would have become the force they have become if Syd Barrett had remained with them and David Gilmour never bacame involved, Gilmours guitar being such an integral (and appreciated) part of their sound. I now duck and take cover.

Edited by MortSahlFan - November 24 2021 at 15:16

Oh by the way, which one’s Paul?

Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote: Paul, your OP was freakin' brilliant!!! Awesome wordplay! Very nicely done!

I was never much of a fan of Biding my Time ever since I got Relics, but the live version from the Early Years Boxset, from the Man and the Journey concert, is so much better for me, with some great added guitar solo.