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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

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last time I saw Hackett's Genesis revisited, Supper's Ready was the low point of the evening. Far from boring but soo f**king long, man.


I really loved it when I saw Hackett. I just love it on the album, and loved hearing it live, no matter how long it is... that's why I'm a prog fan.

There was one guy outside the theatre smoking a cigarette while the Flower Kings were in the middle of their interminable (45m) 'Garden of Dreams' inside: that was me.

Very good overall but the longer, the better? Never bought that.

That's why I'm not a true prog fan.

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I think that Epping Forest is packed with nice melodies and catchy motifs. The brilliance of the lyrics can be appreciated only if you followed the gang land stories in the tabloids of the sixties. Especially the kray twins...
I'm not interested enough in lyrics or storytelling to be bothered I guess. Especially as I alreasdy know I don't enjoy its motifs or melodies. To me they feel forced, without a flow and sterile. And as the whole piece resembles a rock musical to me (=only bluesy pub rock is worse) - I got thousands of better options in my collection.
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I think that Epping Forest is packed with nice melodies and catchy motifs. The brilliance of the lyrics can be appreciated only if you followed the gang land stories in the tabloids of the sixties. Especially the kray twins...
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The Knife - to wake up and startle the audience with doom prog.
Seven Stones - to bath and salvage the audience in calming mellotron cascades.
Time Table - lul them in som nice qusi pastoral jazz-folk.
Suppers Readdy - to stuff rhem with great stuffing and some more doom prog
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So many suggestions for just copying this but I think Watcher of the Skies and Get 'em out by Friday are amongst the dullest Genesis/Gabriel era songs... weak melodies and nagging vocals...
 
I totally agree. I can't stand his lyrics and stupid accents on those. Not just on those two though. He did it on loads of other songs as well,  on that awful "I Know what I Like," for example, and on "The Battle of Epping Forest"  
Yeah Battle of Epping Forest is the absolute worst. Reminds me of a rock musical where an overstuffed/chatty storyline gets in the way of making a decent tune.
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I suppose that you probably had to be alive in 1974 (and be english) to appreciate the concept. The lyrical content of epping forest is genius...


I don't care about the lyrical and concept genius of a song... if the music is annoying, then it remains annoying and no brilliance in the lyrics will make me enjoy it, whether I understand it or relate to it or not.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

last time I saw Hackett's Genesis revisited, Supper's Ready was the low point of the evening. Far from boring but soo f**king long, man.


I really loved it when I saw Hackett. I just love it on the album, and loved hearing it live, no matter how long it is... that's why I'm a prog fan.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:


Just play this album in its entirety.
 

Yup, can't go far wrong. You have to do Musical Box!

So many suggestions for just copying this but I think Watcher of the Skies and Get 'em out by Friday are amongst the dullest Genesis/Gabriel era songs... weak melodies and nagging vocals...


Yeah, I dislike those ones too... For me, "Get 'em out by Friday", "Harold the Barell", and "Battle of Epping Forest" sort of make a trilogy of Hell from the Classic Genesis. I don't really enjoy "Watcher of the Skies" either... I rather dislike it, but Hackett's live version on Tokyo Tapes somehow really fixed it for me, and I really love that version.
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

My list of very favourites from Genesis is mostly from their classic line-up
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Just saying...  Smile     


Well, we are at Prog Archives... I believe the great majority of us will agree on which is the classic line-up... and whomever may not agree will know exactly what is meant
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The perfect lenght for a prog song, baby?

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Whatever PG era stuff you play, someone will grumble and someone will have tears in their eyes.. we're lucky anybody plays any of this stuff live otherwise we'd all be stuck inside watching Shepperton sound stage live 73 and never go out... ever..

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I suppose that you probably had to be alive in 1974 (and be english) to appreciate the concept. The lyrical content of epping forest is genius...
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FFS. "MORE FOOL ME"??? It's the one song which has no part of the concept at all. Firth of Fifth could have been extended rather than have collins penchance for totally sh*t love songs sully the finest symph release ever...

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

 
So many suggestions for just copying this but I think Watcher of the Skies and Get 'em out by Friday are amongst the dullest Genesis/Gabriel era songs... weak melodies and nagging vocals...
 
I totally agree. I can't stand his lyrics and stupid accents on those. Not just on those two though. He did it on loads of other songs as well,  on that awful "I Know what I Like," for example, and on "The Battle of Epping Forest"  

I think one really strong album could have been made from Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot called The Musical Supper, for example, which is basically my Spotify playlist for those two albums SmileWink 

The Musical Box 
Return of the Giant Hogweed 
Seven Stones
The Fountain of Salmacis
Time Table
Horizons
Supper's Ready.

My Spotify playlist for an abbreviated SEBTP is:
Dancing With the Moonlit Knight
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Firth of Fifth
More Fool Me
X
After the Ordeal
The Cinema Show
Aisle of Plenty

As for Trespass, it's a great pop album, I never skip anything on it. Some of it reminds me nicely of  "Am I Very Wrong" 


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last time I saw Hackett's Genesis revisited, Supper's Ready was the low point of the evening. Far from boring but soo f**king long, man.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Suppers ready is just starting to get going when it fades out....Go one beyond the ordinary tribute acts...Practice till your all at the level required then extend the fook out of their classics beginning with extending the 9/8 section and adding in five more minutes of that brilliant ending guitar solo....That would REALLY piss the fookers who love anything beyond 1977...


yeah, you did not pay attention to the initial post
SUPPER'S READY IS OUT

LOL

I chose to ignore it. Whats the point of wanting to do Genesis classics and ignore the epic? If a tribute bamd think its too long then maybe they should stick to bangi ng out "me and sarah jane"...
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Watches of the Skies: fantastic incipit by Tony Banks, but then... too much forced.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Suppers ready is just starting to get going when it fades out....Go one beyond the ordinary tribute acts...Practice till your all at the level required then extend the fook out of their classics beginning with extending the 9/8 section and adding in five more minutes of that brilliant ending guitar solo....That would REALLY piss the fookers who love anything beyond 1977...

yeah, you did not pay attention to the initial post
SUPPER'S READY IS OUT

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Suppers ready is just starting to get going when it fades out....Go one beyond the ordinary tribute acts...Practice till your all at the level required then extend the fook out of their classics beginning with extending the 9/8 section and adding in five more minutes of that brilliant ending guitar solo....That would REALLY piss the fookers who love anything beyond 1977...
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Fountain of Salmacis
Musical Box
The end part of Suppers Ready---start with quiet part right before "with the gods of ...."
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