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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18540 |
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Many of their songs stand out: The Ceiling Speaks (a frequent set opener for good reason)/This City/We Are Sane/East of Eden/Creepshow (their signature tune, thanks to Geoff), and two incredible epics in the form of Sequences (an instrumental Geoff added lyrics to!) and The Collector! Andy Revell's an underrated guitarist. Same for bassist Clive Mitten.
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9070 |
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^ I like both of those albums. For some reason, "Ego" has been on my "to review" list for many months but I can't seem to sit down and write about it. I guess part of it is that Millenium is just a very easy band to listen to, which can make it hard to analyze in any sort of depth. That can perhaps be said about a lot of neo for a lot of people, but I actually don't find IQ or Marillion easy to listen to at all.
And geez, you are right about the Sting comparison...never thought of it Edited by kenethlevine - September 21 2017 at 11:13 |
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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I rated both albums with 4* I really like the voice of Gall. Reminds me of Sting. His solo album is also very nice.
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Quinino ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
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I can't understand why Millenium is always overlooked - even by myself, in spite of loving these two albums :
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20370 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41106 BTW they will be releasing a new album soon, planning to check it out |
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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That's a wonderful description indeed.
Neoprog is the most kitsch subgenre I can think of. Maybe gothic metal is even more kitsch. Most neoclassical metal is also hard to bear. But I'm getting offtopic. Twelfth Night was a different cup of tea indeed. Not the best musicians, and none of their music really stands out. But they have some sort of atmosphere and of course they have Geoff Mann!!!!
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Almost forgot about Twelfth Night. A great band that actually infused a bit of balls into what was already starting to look like a pink unicorn world for bearded men.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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When I really think hard, and limit myself to the well known neoprog, these albums stand out:
Marillion - Clutching, Misplaced and Thieving Magpie IQ - Almost anything, but mainly Subterannea and Seventh House Pendragon - Believe, Pure Twelfth Night - Live and Let Live It Bites - the trio of 80's albums Sylvan - Posthumous Silence Quidam - Alone Together I used to listen to RPWL, Millenium, Galahad etc. But don't really care for them anymore. Maybe the love for neoprog will return...
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Neither Flower Kings or Big Big Train are considered neo so that may just be why you dig them.
Fish era Marillion still reigns supreme for me. I also dig early IQ albums but must admit that Peter Nichols vocals have started to irritate me a little (especially from Ever and on). |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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^ I enjoyed reading your post. I can totally recognize myself in that post. Especially that bands were hard to discover back in the 80's and 90's.
Thank god, I had a hardrock-cd-shop in town wich had a lot of progrock. I love the Unitopia / United Progressive Fraternity aswell. They have the same approach as Big Big Train and Flower Kings. I guess I'll just stick with those guys when it comes to neoprog. Funny to read that there's a thin line between neoprog and (soft) progmetal. Pendragon and Arena lean towards metal and Threshold and Riverside lean towards neoprog. I tried the whole nu-prog movement (Oceansize, Porcupine Tree, Amplifier, Pineapple Thief) but because of the lack of a good keyboardplayer and mostly too techncial and amplified approach, I don;t really care for them anymore. I love myself some flute and acoustic guitars, some violin, vocal harmonies etc. etc. Like I said, Flower Kings, Big Big Train and the lot have enough to offer for me.
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Squonk19 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2015 Location: Darlington, UK Status: Offline Points: 4789 |
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While neoprog harks back to the 80s, it was only Marillion and IQ which I took up at the time - basically because it was tough to get information and hear other bands in those days. It has been since the late 90s that I revisited many of those earlier bands and found some great gems.
Still getting to grips with Hogarth-era Marillion and I don't think they fit in that genre these days, or for quite a while - but recent albums show their progressive nature. I do struggle with finding the line where a band has neo-prog leanings end, and where they go beyond it. In the end I look at bands which take the legacy of early Genesis, Yes and ELP, with complexity, keyboards, melody, repeated themes and variations and not tied down to song structures or particular track lengths. IQ remain up there, ever since I first heard The Wake. Jadis have been a pleasant find in recent years - with a more traditional, guitar-led approach - although some might call them less adventurous. Pendragon have their moments, as do Pallas and Arena. Really enjoying Threshold at present, with the latest album tempering the metal style for some old school prog-leanings. The female-led UK acts such as Magenta, Karnataka, Mostly Autumn, IO Earth etc. have given me many great listening moments. Magenta's new album is great and much of that is down to Rob Reed (whose Oldfield-homages such as Sanctuary 1 and 2 are real chill out albums (although by no means close to neo-prog)). Panic Room are more mainstream, but have their moments too. Big Big Train are wonderful - especially the recent handful of albums - and represent a real pastoral prog style reminiscent of Genesis and Lifesigns are similar in style. Looking forward to the new album this week. Spock's Beard, Neal Morse and Transatlantic might not fit the neo-prog label either - but their influences are often clear to hear. Nad Sylvan is mining that Genesis/Hackett style well and a real bonus was picking up his re-issued Unifaun album which might be too eclectic for the genre, but is well worth checking out. Anything John Mitchell touches these days is real class - Frost* and Arena - although it was the two It Bites reboot albums which really impressed. Pop-prog for many, but the link to the 70s and 80s is clear. Love the 'Lonely Robot' project too. Old school prog with a modern production edge. Elsewhere, Airbag have built up a great back catalogue and expanded on their Pink Floyd leanings. Unitopia and its offshoots are well worth a look - especially Southern Empire. DeeExpus came up to strong albums and are much missed. Mystery, Credo and Leap Day tick most boxes, as to Wobbler. The lost band for me were Darwin's Radio - who brought out one cracking album, before the curse of piracy and streaming saw them give up that particular project. Apologies for significantly shifting away from the pure neo-prog genre in the above stream of consciousness - but I think many of these will fit your search well - and our continental proggers have added names I haven't got to yet either. So much to explore...so little time! Good luck! 😀 P.S. I quite like Riverside too - although moving more into the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree/Anathema side of prog (still great - but not for this thread, perhaps). Edited by Squonk19 - September 20 2017 at 14:26 |
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Kingsnake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
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Neo-Prog is like candy, fastfood...
It's sugarcoated, easy to get into, sounds good, looks good, but it's always the same, and most of the times you get sick when you consume too many. Mostly all neoprogbands that are named in the thread are great, but I can't really pick one right now. Maybe Flower Kings and Big Big Train. I consumed too many neoprog, that I almost can't hear it anymore. It can be so self-indulgent, pastiched, cliched, boring with too many vocals and too little musical passages, IQ is still a great band to listen to, and Clutching at Straws by Marillion is superb. But when I hear people rip on melodic rock/AOR/etc. and then say they love neoprog, I think, what's the difference? Neoprog is not progressive at all, most of the times. Just, really really lengthy popsongs, most of the time (except for IQ and some other examples). But RPWL, Millenium, Galahad, Arena, Sylvan and the lot of them (although I enjoyed them really much, I plead guilty) just play melodic popsongs (although really lenghty popsongs). Mostly the musicians are not even that skilled. I like Quidam very much, when I come to think of it. They had a different, almost jazzy approach here and there.
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45603 |
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Galahad are great, with time they even get better and better.
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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^^ Carptree, a good band !
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6792 |
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Neo neo prog? Barock Project owns my favorite keyboardist ( kudos for composition). Keep going back to Gandalf Fist- The Clockwork Fable And then there is this... |
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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Rachel's Birthday (Germany). |
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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^^ I knew about this album of Chandelier thanks to the belgian magazine Prog-résiste (n 37).
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45603 |
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wow, not bad at all the only neo-prog band from Germany that I enjoy is Sylvan.
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PhideauxFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 14 2007 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 4579 |
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Chandelier (Germany). |
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noni ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1092 |
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Great album!!
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