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Topic: Best Neo Prog Bands?Posted By: TheDankCookie
Subject: Best Neo Prog Bands?
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 06:23
I would like some people to tell me what are some good Neo Prog Bands. I like Marillion, what are some other bands like Marillion? Also tell me what your favorite Neo Prog bands are?
Replies: Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 06:32
I think you should have a look at the original NWOBPR (New Wave of British Progressive Rock) bands.
So:
IQ
Twelfth Night
Pallas
Pendragon
Solstice
and maybe
Galahad
Arena
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 06:55
IQ, Magenta, Galleon, and early Arena are my favorites. Of these, IQ, Galleon, and early Arena are comparable with Marillion, more so from the Fish era than the Hogarth era.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 06:56
A wonderful by fairly unknown Neo band was Sweden's Twin Age.
Their first two albums `Month of the Year' and especially the follow-up `Lialim High' are absolutely superb, I'm the proud owner of both CD's. The vocalist was a bit of a chore sometimes, but they were terrific musicians, and I honestly believe that some of their arrangements were easily the equal of I.Q, Marillion, Pendragon, etc.
More Neo fans need to look into them!
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 06:56
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 07:17
Neoprog has come a long way.
A lot of bands that are considered Neoprog sound nothing like Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis or Twelfth Night.
I used to be a gigantic Neoprog lover and had a very huge collection, also including: Casino, Threshold, Shadowland, Enchant, RPWL, Sylvan etc.
Two bands that are not really neoprog but are great examples of eighties progrock are Saga and It Bites.
Especially Saga was a band that filled the gap between 1977 and 1982 when progrock was considerered a lost cause.
They had the whole synth/guitar interaction that neoprog so thankfully used in their music.
If you like newer Marillion albums, I think that other depressing music like Anathema, Steven Wilson, Radiohead etc. would be good examples.
The older more progressive Marillion can better be compared to IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis, Twelfth Night.
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 07:20
Oh and Poland has a thriving neoprog scene.
I don't like Riverside, but they are very popular.
Then there is: BelIeve, Millenium, Moonrise, Satellite, Collage and Quidam (wich sounds more like Camel).
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 07:40
With Marillion, Twelfth Night and Legend are my fave neo-prog bands
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Posted By: mbzr48
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 07:51
Simple idea: on the front page of this web site click on the "Neo-Prog" under the Prog Sub-Geners and listen to the top 20 albums first, you are in for a treat! IQ's album "The Road of Bones" is #1 of all times for a reason!
Posted By: TheDankCookie
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 08:34
mbzr48 wrote:
Simple idea: on the front page of this web site click on the "Neo-Prog" under the Prog Sub-Geners and listen to the top 20 albums first, you are in for a treat! IQ's album "The Road of Bones" is #1 of all times for a reason!
Lol I did not think of that. Now i look like an idiot wasting everyone's time. THanks for all the feedback everyone. I'm new to the Prog forums.
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 08:36
I don't think it's idiotic. It's a good thing to interact.
And people always enjoy making lists.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 09:43
Kingsnake wrote:
Neoprog has come a long way.
A lot of bands that are considered Neoprog sound nothing like Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis or Twelfth Night.
I used to be a gigantic Neoprog lover and had a very huge collection, also including: Casino, Threshold, Shadowland, Enchant, RPWL, Sylvan etc.
Two bands that are not really neoprog but are great examples of eighties progrock are Saga and It Bites.
Especially Saga was a band that filled the gap between 1977 and 1982 when progrock was considerered a lost cause.
They had the whole synth/guitar interaction that neoprog so thankfully used in their music.
If you like newer Marillion albums, I think that other depressing music like Anathema, Steven Wilson, Radiohead etc. would be good examples.
The older more progressive Marillion can better be compared to IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis, Twelfth Night.
it's not called Janis, but Jadis.
Some of the bands you mention are not neo-prog - RPWL, Threshold, Enchant.
Why suggest Anatema, Wilson and Radiohead on a neo-prog thread? Hogarth mumbled at some point a la Yorke, he likes the guy/Radiohead (there is a live version of the song Fake Plastic Trees), but other than that, the two bands don't have much in common.
Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 09:45
Comedy of Errors has 3 excellent albums, and if you add Grand Tour, make it 4.
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 10:20
javajeff wrote:
Comedy of Errors has 3 excellent albums, and if you add Grand Tour, make it 4.
100% AGREE.
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 10:28
I add some of my fave Neo prog bands here :
Sylvan
Mindgames
Edison's Children
Millenium
Lazuli
Credo
Balloon Astronomy (I love this soooooooooooo much)
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 10:58
I esp enjoy the song The Show: it has a feel of graceful endurance and I felt it like like Talk Talk invites Holdsworth and as voices, Levin/Belew (yes a voice that recalls so much Belew ! After I'd been amazed at how Piet Roelofsen (also a dutch singer) sounded similar to Peter Gabriel).
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 11:17
Cristi wrote:
Kingsnake wrote:
Neoprog has come a long way.
A lot of bands that are considered Neoprog sound nothing like Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis or Twelfth Night.
I used to be a gigantic Neoprog lover and had a very huge collection, also including: Casino, Threshold, Shadowland, Enchant, RPWL, Sylvan etc.
Two bands that are not really neoprog but are great examples of eighties progrock are Saga and It Bites.
Especially Saga was a band that filled the gap between 1977 and 1982 when progrock was considerered a lost cause.
They had the whole synth/guitar interaction that neoprog so thankfully used in their music.
If you like newer Marillion albums, I think that other depressing music like Anathema, Steven Wilson, Radiohead etc. would be good examples.
The older more progressive Marillion can better be compared to IQ, Pendragon, Pallas, Janis, Twelfth Night.
it's not called Janis, but Jadis.
Some of the bands you mention are not neo-prog - RPWL, Threshold, Enchant.
Why suggest Anatema, Wilson and Radiohead on a neo-prog thread? Hogarth mumbled at some point a la Yorke, he likes the guy/Radiohead (there is a live version of the song Fake Plastic Trees), but other than that, the two bands don't have much in common.
I know some of the bands I named are NOT neoprog. I thought I was clear about that.
I just stated, that if someone like newer Marillion, he/she would like the bands I mentioned.
Furthermore is said ALSO including. Stating that the bands I mentioned have relations to neoprog or a similar feel. Someone mentioned Airbag and Steven Wilson. I don't even like Radiohead etc. I just wanted to help out someone.
And on the other hand, Enchant and RPWL have been considered neoprog by a lot of people. I don't even care what genre they're in. Oncemore; only suggesting bands that have something in common with Marillion. Did you know Rothery produced the first Enchant-album and that the drummer of Enchant and Rothery worked together in The Wishing Tree? So, they sure are related.
Threshold is a band really inspired by Marillion. You can really tell, although they are a bit heavier, more metal.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 11:37
^ the thread creator wants to know about neo-prog and bands like Marillion so mentioning bands unrelated to that does not do much help.
Yes, I know Rothery helped with Enchant's debut, but Enchant are not a neo-prog band if you ask me.
As for Threshold, they are a progressive metal band. They don't make me think of neo-prog.
The bands you recommend are good, but some of them don't have to do with the thread question.
Posted By: thepurplepiper
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 11:38
Along with the numerous other neo-prog bands, Fish also has some solo work that you might be interested in. Personally, Arena are quite appealing to me. Not on the same level as Marillion, but certainly worth a look at if you're interested in the neo-prog scene. Frost* are another good band in this vein. The neo-prog movement is perhaps the most underrated scene in progressive music, full of such rich music.
Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 12:08
What even is "neo-prog"? Surely any band that's come since the 70s era can be considered "neo-prog".
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 12:11
^ neo-prog started early 80s with Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ. That sound. Influences mostly from Genesis and Pink Floyd. Easiest way to put it.
Posted By: thepurplepiper
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 14:19
RoeDent wrote:
What even is "neo-prog"? Surely any band that's come since the 70s era can be considered "neo-prog".
Neo-prog is more a specific genre of progressive rock rather than a catch-all term for modern prog. Think groups like Marillion, Pendragon, IQ and Arena. The RYM database describes it as follows;
Neo-Prog is a synthesiser-driven style of https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Progressive+Rock/" rel="nofollow - Progressive Rock that emerged in the early 1980s in the United Kingdom. https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/fish" rel="nofollow - Fish -era https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/marillion" rel="nofollow - Marillion and https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/iq" rel="nofollow - IQ are considered to be the defining bands of the genre.
Neo-prog took off in 1983 with bands taking strong influence from the https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Symphonic+Prog/" rel="nofollow - Symphonic Prog sounds of https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/genesis" rel="nofollow - Genesis , https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/yes" rel="nofollow - Yes and https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/camel" rel="nofollow - Camel , but replacing the https://rateyourmusic.com/film_role/Hammond+organ/" rel="nofollow - Hammond organ and https://rateyourmusic.com/film_role/Mellotron/" rel="nofollow - Mellotron -heavy sounds of symphonic prog with a focus on synthesisers and keyboards. The synthesisers are often the driving force in neo-prog, with the guitar regularly playing high-pitched and atmospheric lines as opposed to the riff-driven tendency of symphonic prog. Genesis' https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/genesis/wind_and_wuthering/" rel="nofollow - Wind & Wuthering is an influence for the guitars, and is considered by some to be the first neo-prog record. Neo-prog bands also have more https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Pop/" rel="nofollow - Pop -oriented melodies than other forms of progressive rock, while still keeping the complex instrumentation. This saw some significant radio play and fame for some bands, with Marillion charting 11 top 40 singles during the time Fish was their vocalist.
Although the original scene died in the late '80s with Fish leaving Marillion and Peter Nicholls leaving IQ, the genre continued an underground following with bands like https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pendragon" rel="nofollow - Pendragon , https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/arena" rel="nofollow - Arena and https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/galahad" rel="nofollow - Galahad at the forefront, and creating some smaller scenes, like the '90s Polish scene of https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/abraxas_f1" rel="nofollow - Abraxas , https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/collage" rel="nofollow - Collage and https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/quidam" rel="nofollow - Quidam . Although Marillion moved further away from neo-prog, IQ continued to make albums in the style, and gained a further cult following after Peter Nicholls returned to the band.
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 17:50
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
A wonderful by fairly unknown Neo band was Sweden's Twin Age.
Their first two albums `Month of the Year' and especially the follow-up `Lialim High' are absolutely superb, I'm the proud owner of both CD's. The vocalist was a bit of a chore sometimes, but they were terrific musicians, and I honestly believe that some of their arrangements were easily the equal of I.Q, Marillion, Pendragon, etc.
More Neo fans need to look into them!
Good band
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 26 2016 at 23:56
Mark Kelly plays keyboards with this band:
DeeExpus: King Of Number 33 (UK-2011). Influences Porcupine Tree/Marillion. Super !!! (18/20) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35398" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35398 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJZpJcvxdA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJZpJcvxdA
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 09:00
I esp enjoy the song The Show: it has a feel of graceful endurance and I felt it like like Talk Talk invites Holdsworth and as voices, Levin/Belew (yes a voice that recalls so much Belew ! After I'd been amazed at how Piet Roelofsen (also a dutch singer) sounded similar to Peter Gabriel).
Hi Jean-Mary
I will send you another Demo very soon. Sorry for lately! I had (have) too many troubles . Keep in touch.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 10:42
In addition to the usual suspects like early Marillion, IQ, Arena, Pendragon and Twelfh Night, I like Anubis a lot
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 11:09
I esp enjoy the song The Show: it has a feel of graceful endurance and I felt it like like Talk Talk invites Holdsworth and as voices, Levin/Belew (yes a voice that recalls so much Belew ! After I'd been amazed at how Piet Roelofsen (also a dutch singer) sounded similar to Peter Gabriel).
Hi Jean-Mary
I will send you another Demo very soon. Sorry for lately! I had (have) too many troubles . Keep in touch.
I'll listen carefully to it ! Things ain't well but you keep going, and I owe you the more respect.
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 12:41
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 12:45
micky wrote:
I totally agree with you.
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 12:51
Kingsnake wrote:
micky wrote:
I totally agree with you.
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 05:43
From Switzerland, Clepsydra and Shakary:
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:29
Some of AISLES (Aisles?) is pretty good. 4:45 AM was free at one point and that's the majority of what I've heard from them. Hawaii I think is okay too judging on it's rating currently. They're sort of like a watered down IQ but I still like them well enough.
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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 29 2016 at 03:46
From Italy, Asgard and Aufklarung.
Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: October 03 2016 at 05:31
Neo Prog is my favourite sub-genre.
I can recommend the following as having good quality and consistent output:
IQ
Comedy of Errors
Arena
Sylvan
Pendragon
Anubis
Barock Project (not typically neo, but very, very good)
The following bands I also like, but I have not heard much so cannot vouch for their consistency:
LIfesigns
Synaesthesia/Kyros (not listed as Neo any more, but I can't really identify any stylistic difference)
Gandalf's Fist
Drifting Sun
Magenta
I consider Steven Wilson's albums Raven and HandCannotErase to be very similar to neo prog and these are quite agreeable.
Also, what I have heard of Phideaux is pretty close too and well worth a try.
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 03 2016 at 07:04
Rosscoe wrote:
The following bands I also like, but I have not heard much so cannot vouch for their consistency:
LIfesigns
Well they've only made 1 studio album so far (another one is in the pipeline) but they are brilliant.
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: October 03 2016 at 07:29
Like Wendy, with Live At Armageddon for a start... Instrum second half of "Radioactive Girl" sounds very much like Led Zep's No Quarter (instrum sequence) !
Aragon (at least until mid-90's. Cold strained kitchy 80's-90's sounds perfect for singer's raging falsetto
Tiemko (closer to jazz - fusion, but their own style !)
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: October 03 2016 at 08:01
jayem wrote:
Like Wendy, with Live At Armageddon for a start... Instrum second half of "Radioactive Girl" sounds very much like Led Zep's No Quarter (instrum sequence) !
Aragon (at least until mid-90's. Cold strained kitchy 80's-90's sounds perfect for singer's raging falsetto
Tiemko (closer to jazz - fusion, but their own style !)
Like Wendy is awesome, highly recommended
Posted By: analogkid529
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 15:10
I never cared for Marillion that much, despite that they're basically "THE" Neo-prog band. I prefer IQ, Pendragon, and Collage. They're all incredible.
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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 15:41
Maybe you should check out some of these gems by Citizen Cain;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi_aM-13go8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISQ3DUae7ks
Posted By: Eastwood
Date Posted: October 07 2016 at 05:18
i guess for me it`s Anekdoten, Airbag, maybe Riverside, Pineapple Thief, late Opeth stuff, but all their latest suff is more to sound like mid 70`s classics ))
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: October 07 2016 at 05:59
I guess I should say "don't get me started" . Apart from "ignore Micky and his trolling ".
The shout out for Lifesigns is a good one, however for me the best relatively new Neo band out there is definitely Sanguine Hum. They're not your typical Neo outfit, and the fragile vocals may put some off, however their fresh sound and amazing chord progressions certainly get my prog senses tingling.
Posted By: RoadLASER
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 04:22
For example
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 04:34
Silhouette (Netherlands) (17/20).
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 07:50
Roj wrote:
I guess I should say "don't get me started" . Apart from "ignore Micky and his trolling ".
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: October 08 2016 at 10:27
Mindgames
Comedy of Erros
Pallas
Barock Project
Solstice
Posted By: Barocknroll
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 08:04
Barock Project have the lead on Neo-Prog album chart 2105.
Who has released the best neo-prog album this year?
Posted By: RoadLASER
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 08:25
Barocknroll wrote:
Barock Project have the lead on Neo-Prog album chart 2105.
Who has released the best neo-prog album this year?
For me: Multi Story Drifting Sun Cromwell Huis
and Big Big Train
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 08:27
^ I haven't listened to the new Cromwell yet (just some samples) but the phenomenal singer from Burning Banners is gone.
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 05:16
Try some Citizen Cain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi_aM-13go8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISQ3DUae7ks
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 05:30
^ Citizen Cain is not one of the neo-bands I enjoy, got bored with them quite fast.
Posted By: NothingHill
Date Posted: October 20 2016 at 12:58
Marillion with Hogart.
Posted By: RoadLASER
Date Posted: October 20 2016 at 13:05
NothingHill wrote:
Marillion with Hogart.
May be "without" Hogart?
Posted By: Borko
Date Posted: October 20 2016 at 14:00
Not sure that you can call Barock Project , neo.
Why?
Because of all the bands mentioned here, it is the only one that doesn't SUCK.
You will have to convince me that they are indeed neo.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 06:57
Recently stumbled across a Dutch band called Silhouette. Their last album Beyond The Seventh Wave is an absolute beauty and for me the best neo prog album since IQ's Road Of Bones.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 06:58
PhideauxFan wrote:
Silhouette (Netherlands) (17/20).
sorry just noticed this after submitting my post
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 07:01
^ btw I've just started listening to Phideaux recently (Courtesy of Amazon Prime) and finding them very interesting . Well worth checking out as well.
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 07:05
richardh wrote:
^ btw I've just started listening to Phideaux recently (Courtesy of Amazon Prime) and finding them very interesting . Well worth checking out as well.
Listen also to Paul Roland (albums Re-Animator and Pavane). He sings like Phideaux Xavier.
Posted By: Mystic Mamba
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 13:43
Frost* is my personal favorite band of all time, and their album Milliontown is a true masterpiece of modern prog.
Also, Satellite is a band that I feel doesn't get nearly enough attention. Their album Evening Games is a rare gem that every Neo Prog fan needs to hear.
Finally, Galleon's magnum opus "The Ocean" is a perfect description of everything awesome about Neo Prog.
Posted By: RoadLASER
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 13:55
Mystic Mamba wrote:
Frost* is my personal favorite band of all time, and their album Milliontown is a true masterpiece of modern prog.
Also, Satellite is a band that I feel doesn't get nearly enough attention. Their album Evening Games is a rare gem that every Neo Prog fan needs to hear.
Falling Satellites by Frost* is the one ofthe biggest disappointments of2016
Satellite? This is only theshadow ofa greatgroupCollage
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 14:28
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 27 2016 at 14:49
Drifting Sun is fantastic music , just reviewng On the Rebound and its a corker!
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Posted By: Aled91
Date Posted: December 05 2016 at 01:26
among modern prog bands, which could be called post-progressive rock I recommend:
Steven Wilson (obviously)
The Pineapple Thief
Gazpacho
Il Rumore Bianco
Lazuli
La Coscienza di Zeno
The Secret Sits
Posted By: PH
Date Posted: December 05 2016 at 21:16
TheDankCookie wrote:
Also tell me what your favorite Neo Prog bands are?
In the past? PENDRAGON (circa 1991 - 2001).
Currently? Scottish COMEDY OF ERRORS and GRAND TOUR. Polish MILLENIUM. German MORPHELIA. etc.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 01:59
Of old: IQ and Marillion.
More recently: no specific favourites. I have heard some good albums by Grand Tour, Magenta, Comedy of Errors and Nine Stones Close in recent years. The most recent album by Nine Stones Close will probably end on top of my 2016 list, but this one has more to do with Heavy Prog than with Neo, unless my ears are mistaken.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 06 2016 at 02:34
Apart from IQ, I nominate MAGENTA for the award.............
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 07:25
Twelfth Night
Quidam
Jadis
Sylvan
Mystery
Galahad
Galleon
Solstice
Nemo
Airbag
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 15:49
Before i'm blown out the water, this French band (and this lp in particular) has most of the hallmarks of 'Neo-prog' style before Marillion, IQ, Twelfth Night and Pendragon came on the scene.. it was released in 1978 so not far off. If you like very early Marillion you will probably appreciate this...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 16:54
If you love the Neo, Multi-Story's debut East/West is essential listening!
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 19:06
verslibre wrote:
^Cool, another Niadem's Ghost fan. That's a really underappreciated obscurity.
Oh ya, I absolutely love "In Sheltered Winds"! I think it's really cool to hear Peter Nichols in a band without a keyboardist so his voice is even more out front than usual
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 19:27
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
Before i'm blown out the water, this French band (and this lp in particular) has most of the hallmarks of 'Neo-prog' style before Marillion, IQ, Twelfth Night and Pendragon came on the scene.. it was released in 1978 so not far off. If you like very early Marillion you will probably appreciate this...
I love Mona Lisa! I found them through being a huge Ange fan (considered "Symphonic Prog" on PA) but I can hear the Neo style connection you mention as well. Hopefully some people will give this album a try and if they like it, I'd also highly recommend the 2 excellent Mona Lisa albums previous to this one (Le Petit Violon de Monsieur Gregoire:1975 and Grimaces:1977) though be warned, Mona Lisa is very heavy on the dramatic French vocals which I love, but they may be a bit much for others to take
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 11:21
^I saw Mona Lisa at ProgFest 2000 in L.A.! They were awesome!
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 11:54
verslibre wrote:
^I saw Mona Lisa at ProgFest 2000 in L.A.! They were awesome!
That's good to hear. Sometimes when these 70's only prog bands reformed a couple decades later the results weren't so good
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 11:58
the whole Mona Lisa discussion is kinda off topic.
yes, the origins of neo are in symphonic but nevertheless...
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 12:11
The.Crimson.King wrote:
verslibre wrote:
^I saw Mona Lisa at ProgFest 2000 in L.A.! They were awesome!
That's good to hear. Sometimes when these 70's only prog bands reformed a couple decades later the results weren't so good
The concert's on DVD, but it doesn't show the band entering through the lobby, tossing flowers (LOL) and serving wine & cheese to the audience in the middle of the set!
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 12:19
Cristi wrote:
the whole Mona Lisa discussion is kinda off topic.
yes, the origins of neo are in symphonic but nevertheless...
True, but if people who wouldn't normally be exposed to the band check them out and like them because of this thread, isn't that a good thing
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 12:24
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Cristi wrote:
the whole Mona Lisa discussion is kinda off topic.
yes, the origins of neo are in symphonic but nevertheless...
True, but if people who wouldn't normally be exposed to the band check them out and like them because of this thread, isn't that a good thing
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yes, it is
*sigh*
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 12:27
verslibre wrote:
The concert's on DVD, but it doesn't show the band entering through the lobby, tossing flowers (LOL) and serving wine & cheese to the audience in the middle of the set!
Wow, I wish I could have seen that...Magnifique
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 15:30
Ange are great too!.. I was introduced to them in the late 70's.. I felt that the approach they took to the style of music of Genesis and King Crimson in particular, pre-dated the 'Neo' idea in that they were creating their own music by respectfully/ reverentially referencing these (slightly) earlier bands but in a particularly accentuated and stylized way.. which, after all, is all that Marillion, IQ etc were doing a few years later..
I also feel that Eloy's late 70's output (Colours, Planets & Time to Turn) was pre-empting the sound of the new wave of British progressive rock (NWOBPR)
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 15 2017 at 16:55
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
Ange are great too!.. I was introduced to them in the late 70's.. I felt that the approach they took to the style of music of Genesis and King Crimson in particular, pre-dated the 'Neo' idea in that they were creating their own music by respectfully/ reverentially referencing these (slightly) earlier bands but in a particularly accentuated and stylized way.. which, after all, is all that Marillion, IQ etc were doing a few years later..
I also feel that Eloy's late 70's output (Colours, Planets & Time to Turn) was pre-empting the sound of the new wave of British progressive rock (NWOBPR)
Interesting thoughts on Ange and the Neo Prog movement...I never really thought about them
that way. I've already steered this thread too far away from the OP's intention, so I started a new thread discussing the start of the Neo Prog era at:
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 13:38
My apologies if I 'nudged' the subject away from its original post.. it wasn't intentional; I was in my late teens/ early twenties when the Neo Prog (NWOBPR) came about and loved Twelfth Night and IQ in particular (see my postings on Twelfth Night on the band appreciation section. Also worked briefly as a roadie for a local band who supported Pendragon on their 'Fly High, Fall far' tour (about 82?) so those were the bands I knew well. I also put a posting about 'Chemical Alice' who pre-dated Marillion (CA's Drummer became Marillion's keyboard player apparently!?) asking if anyone knew anymore but ive had no replies :(
Thanks, i'll check out your new thread and promise to 'not stray from the path' :)
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 14:22
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
Thanks, i'll check out your new thread and promise to 'not stray from the path' :)
No worries...I was just as guilty
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 16:46
my favorite newer prog band are The Red Masque. they are not really neo-prog though; they are very aggressive. listen to their track "Minotaur":
there are many live clips of them on YouTube, here a few examples:
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Posted By: noni
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 17:55
PhideauxFan wrote:
Silhouette (Netherlands) (17/20).
Great album!!
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 04:56
Chandelier (Germany).
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 05:02
PhideauxFan wrote:
Chandelier (Germany).
wow, not bad at all
the only neo-prog band from Germany that I enjoy is Sylvan.
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 05:17
^^ I knew about this album of Chandelier thanks to the belgian magazine Prog-résiste (n 37). http://www.progresiste.com/index.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.progresiste.com/index.php
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 04:21
Rachel's Birthday (Germany).
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 08:44
Neo neo prog? Barock Project owns my favorite keyboardist ( kudos for composition).
Keep going back to Gandalf Fist- The Clockwork Fable
And then there is this...
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 01:58
^^ Carptree, a good band !
Galahad (UK).
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 05:50
Galahad are great, with time they even get better and better.
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 09:35
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 10:54
Neo-Prog is like candy, fastfood... It's sugarcoated, easy to get into, sounds good, looks good, but it's always the same, and most of the times you get sick when you consume too many.
Mostly all neoprogbands that are named in the thread are great, but I can't really pick one right now. Maybe Flower Kings and Big Big Train.
I consumed too many neoprog, that I almost can't hear it anymore. It can be so self-indulgent, pastiched, cliched, boring with too many vocals and too little musical passages,
IQ is still a great band to listen to, and Clutching at Straws by Marillion is superb.
But when I hear people rip on melodic rock/AOR/etc. and then say they love neoprog, I think, what's the difference? Neoprog is not progressive at all, most of the times. Just, really really lengthy popsongs, most of the time (except for IQ and some other examples).
But RPWL, Millenium, Galahad, Arena, Sylvan and the lot of them (although I enjoyed them really much, I plead guilty) just play melodic popsongs (although really lenghty popsongs). Mostly the musicians are not even that skilled.
I like Quidam very much, when I come to think of it. They had a different, almost jazzy approach here and there.
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 12:36
While neoprog harks back to the 80s, it was only Marillion and IQ which I took up at the time - basically because it was tough to get information and hear other bands in those days. It has been since the late 90s that I revisited many of those earlier bands and found some great gems.
Still getting to grips with Hogarth-era Marillion and I don't think they fit in that genre these days, or for quite a while - but recent albums show their progressive nature.
I do struggle with finding the line where a band has neo-prog leanings end, and where they go beyond it. In the end I look at bands which take the legacy of early Genesis, Yes and ELP, with complexity, keyboards, melody, repeated themes and variations and not tied down to song structures or particular track lengths.
IQ remain up there, ever since I first heard The Wake. Jadis have been a pleasant find in recent years - with a more traditional, guitar-led approach - although some might call them less adventurous. Pendragon have their moments, as do Pallas and Arena. Really enjoying Threshold at present, with the latest album tempering the metal style for some old school prog-leanings.
The female-led UK acts such as Magenta, Karnataka, Mostly Autumn, IO Earth etc. have given me many great listening moments. Magenta's new album is great and much of that is down to Rob Reed (whose Oldfield-homages such as Sanctuary 1 and 2 are real chill out albums (although by no means close to neo-prog)). Panic Room are more mainstream, but have their moments too.
Big Big Train are wonderful - especially the recent handful of albums - and represent a real pastoral prog style reminiscent of Genesis and Lifesigns are similar in style. Looking forward to the new album this week.
Spock's Beard, Neal Morse and Transatlantic might not fit the neo-prog label either - but their influences are often clear to hear.
Nad Sylvan is mining that Genesis/Hackett style well and a real bonus was picking up his re-issued Unifaun album which might be too eclectic for the genre, but is well worth checking out.
Anything John Mitchell touches these days is real class - Frost* and Arena - although it was the two It Bites reboot albums which really impressed. Pop-prog for many, but the link to the 70s and 80s is clear. Love the 'Lonely Robot' project too. Old school prog with a modern production edge.
Elsewhere, Airbag have built up a great back catalogue and expanded on their Pink Floyd leanings. Unitopia and its offshoots are well worth a look - especially Southern Empire. DeeExpus came up to strong albums and are much missed. Mystery, Credo and Leap Day tick most boxes, as to Wobbler.
The lost band for me were Darwin's Radio - who brought out one cracking album, before the curse of piracy and streaming saw them give up that particular project.
Apologies for significantly shifting away from the pure neo-prog genre in the above stream of consciousness - but I think many of these will fit your search well - and our continental proggers have added names I haven't got to yet either.
So much to explore...so little time! Good luck! 😀
P.S. I quite like Riverside too - although moving more into the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree/Anathema side of prog (still great - but not for this thread, perhaps).
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 01:38
^ I enjoyed reading your post. I can totally recognize myself in that post. Especially that bands were hard to discover back in the 80's and 90's.
Thank god, I had a hardrock-cd-shop in town wich had a lot of progrock.
I love the Unitopia / United Progressive Fraternity aswell. They have the same approach as Big Big Train and Flower Kings. I guess I'll just stick with those guys when it comes to neoprog.
Funny to read that there's a thin line between neoprog and (soft) progmetal.
Pendragon and Arena lean towards metal and Threshold and Riverside lean towards neoprog.
I tried the whole nu-prog movement (Oceansize, Porcupine Tree, Amplifier, Pineapple Thief) but because of the lack of a good keyboardplayer and mostly too techncial and amplified approach, I don;t really care for them anymore.
I love myself some flute and acoustic guitars, some violin, vocal harmonies etc. etc.
Like I said, Flower Kings, Big Big Train and the lot have enough to offer for me.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 02:16
Neither Flower Kings or Big Big Train are considered neo so that may just be why you dig them.
Fish era Marillion still reigns supreme for me. I also dig early IQ albums but must admit that Peter Nichols vocals have started to irritate me a little (especially from Ever and on).
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 02:26
When I really think hard, and limit myself to the well known neoprog, these albums stand out:
Marillion - Clutching, Misplaced and Thieving Magpie
IQ - Almost anything, but mainly Subterannea and Seventh House
Pendragon - Believe, Pure
Twelfth Night - Live and Let Live
It Bites - the trio of 80's albums
Sylvan - Posthumous Silence
Quidam - Alone Together
I used to listen to RPWL, Millenium, Galahad etc. But don't really care for them anymore. Maybe the love for neoprog will return...
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 02:31
Almost forgot about Twelfth Night. A great band that actually infused a bit of balls into what was already starting to look like a pink unicorn world for bearded men.
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 06:38
That's a wonderful description indeed.
Neoprog is the most kitsch subgenre I can think of. Maybe gothic metal is even more kitsch.
Most neoclassical metal is also hard to bear. But I'm getting offtopic.
Twelfth Night was a different cup of tea indeed. Not the best musicians, and none of their music really stands out. But they have some sort of atmosphere and of course they have Geoff Mann!!!!