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Dellinger 
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 Posted: May 04 2015 at 21:55 |
 Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
We have a local chain down here in Australia called JB Hifi, and although their prog pickings are few and far between, TWICE I've come across Renaissance under heavy metal! 
Mind you, I've also found Magenta, Kaipa and Mostly Autumn there as well! 
The `Metal' section is really just a dumping ground for prog artists that don't include the big bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, etc, which are always under `Popular'
One good thing that comes from this - generally all these prog albums sit untouched for months in the metal section, Joe Average has no idea what the albums are, so eventually they're marked down to a fraction of their original price, and I'm more than happy to snap them up, either for my own collection, or to pass on as gifts to friends.  |
The bad thing is that if this albums don't sell because they are in the wrong section, it will be less likely that the store managers will pay attention to keep on getting such bands... or more likely, if they are already put on discount, then they should be paying attention so they won't stock them again.
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darkshade
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 18:51 |
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I hear a lot of Iron Maiden in a lot of early Camel albums.
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:47 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Pastmaster wrote:
sublime220 wrote:
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten. |
I don't agree, while it may have been hard rock/heavy metal and I like both Tull and Metallica, I still think Metallica should have won. |
Hey, all opinions are accepted here. Even the ones that are wrong. In any case, the sad thing is that Tull won a Grammy for what could be considered as their 11th or 12th best album. |
Also, if Metallica did win at least it was before Lars went money hungry.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:21 |
Imperial Zeppelin wrote:
But Camel is also a cigarette brand, so it also qualifies as death metal |
Catcher10 wrote:
A camel has hair...so would be categorized as Hair Metal...... |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:20 |
Pastmaster wrote:
sublime220 wrote:
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten. |
I don't agree, while it may have been hard rock/heavy metal and I like both Tull and Metallica, I still think Metallica should have won. |
Hey, all opinions are accepted here. Even the ones that are wrong. In any case, the sad thing is that Tull won a Grammy for what could be considered as their 11th or 12th best album.
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micky
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:17 |
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if only they had been.....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:01 |
sublime220 wrote:
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten. |
I don't agree, while it may have been hard rock/heavy metal and I like both Tull and Metallica, I still think Metallica should have won.
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tboyd1802
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:58 |
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
The subject line sounded insane to me, but you have now put this into perfect context. Thank you
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sublime220
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:56 |
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Smurph
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:46 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:29 |
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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twalsh
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:03 |
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Now envisioning a fire-breathing metal snow goose!
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More heavy prog, please!
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:45 |
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But Camel is also a cigarette brand, so it also qualifies as death metal
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"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."
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Catcher10
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:35 |
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A camel has hair...so would be categorized as Hair Metal......
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:23 |
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^I think the reasoning for that is you will hear bands like Yes and Pink Floyd on classic rock radio stations. A band can be classic rock and progressive rock at the same time.
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bloodnarfer
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:10 |
My record store has a pretty large prog/krautrock section. Curiously they put Yes, ELP, pink floyd, Mike oldfield and a few other big name bands in the 'classic rock' section, but Genesis and Camel still get to sit in the prog section.  I'm not sure if there is a method to the madness
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:49 |
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I've seen Pink Floyd at the metal store near me, but other then that the rest is all hard rock or obviously metal. Some would argue that King Crimson shouldn't be in there, because I've seen that, but King Crimson certainly had their heavier albums that lean towards hard rock.
Edited by Pastmaster - May 04 2015 at 12:54
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Smurph
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:26 |
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Some people think any distorted guitars make it metal.
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Progosopher
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:14 |
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If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:01 |
We have a local chain down here in Australia called JB Hifi, and although their prog pickings are few and far between, TWICE I've come across Renaissance under heavy metal! Mind you, I've also found Magenta, Kaipa and Mostly Autumn there as well! The `Metal' section is really just a dumping ground for prog artists that don't include the big bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, etc, which are always under `Popular' One good thing that comes from this - generally all these prog albums sit untouched for months in the metal section, Joe Average has no idea what the albums are, so eventually they're marked down to a fraction of their original price, and I'm more than happy to snap them up, either for my own collection, or to pass on as gifts to friends.
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