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Posted: December 10 2014 at 22:04
I'm guessing Steve Hackett himself would vote for the Beatles, I don't know. But I'm not Hackett. I'm HackettFan, and in my spare time I'm a Genesis fan, so there goes my vote goes to Genesis.
Now, if someone dares do a poll pitting Genesis against Zappa, that's when they'll have me whimpering in a fetal position.
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 14:59
Friday13th wrote:
I know what you mean Walton, in terms of appreciating older music you're preaching to the choir. That's not the way I measure "overratedness," though. If you try to compare them to modern OVERRATED music in pop culture then yes, The Beatles would appear to deserve at least 1,000x more popularity than say, One Direction. But in the grand scheme of things, did they get more than their fair share of screaming fangirls? Have they still sold more music than any other music artist? Compare them to the greats of prog or other pop innovators like Kraftwerk, and The Beatles can't possibly be in that same "underrated" boat.
to be honest with you - i don't even like the term overrated/underrated.
I think things are rated appropriately by the particular people that like them..
under appreciated is the term i should have used ..
I know what you mean Walton, in terms of appreciating older music you're preaching to the choir. That's not the way I measure "overratedness," though. If you try to compare them to modern OVERRATED music in pop culture then yes, The Beatles would appear to deserve at least 1,000x more popularity than say, One Direction. But in the grand scheme of things, did they get more than their fair share of screaming fangirls? Have they still sold more music than any other music artist? Compare them to the greats of prog or other pop innovators like Kraftwerk, and The Beatles can't possibly be in that same "underrated" boat.
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 13:30
Friday13th wrote:
lol Walton Street, I don't know how you could argue the most popular band of all time is underrated...unless you think the correct response for mankind is to sell ourselves to be Paul and Ringo's slaves.
most of us are age peers,
I find the Beatles (or anything 'old') are not reaching most younger people and they are usually the ones calling them overrated because they have no idea, or care, what the Beatles mean to music in general.
i remember years ago being bemused at the people who thought The Joshua Tree was the first U2 album...
just a goofy example but it illustrates how much worse it is now - years later
there are always a few thousand exceptions - and they find themselves on forums like this.
The other hundreds of millions don't :)
Edited by Walton Street - December 10 2014 at 13:31
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 10:28
The popularity itself becomes a convenient excuse for some people to pass them off as the precursor of boy bands. It has happened...on this very forum, if I am not very much mistaken. Not saying that they are underrated anything, but I can understand why people would say that.
lol Walton Street, I don't know how you could argue the most popular band of all time is underrated...unless you think the correct response for mankind is to sell ourselves to be Paul and Ringo's slaves.
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 10:21
addictedtoprog wrote:
As much as i love The Beatles and respect their influence i cannot chose them over a band that made 'Nursery Cryme' 'Foxtrot' 'Selling England...' 'The Lamb.....' This is PA...Not some Rolling Stones forum...Genesis should b winning.
Well, it's only because it's PA that the poll is so close and Genesis might yet swing it by the end. On most other forums, it would be a landslide victory for Beatles.
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 08:22
I don't know how to say the obvious but saying that the Beatles White Album was released in 1968, while the band Genesis was formed at first only in 1967. hugs to all
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 08:02
As much as i love The Beatles and respect their influence i cannot chose them over a band that made 'Nursery Cryme' 'Foxtrot' 'Selling England...' 'The Lamb.....' This is PA...Not some Rolling Stones forum...Genesis should b winning.
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Posted: December 10 2014 at 07:06
A bit surprised to know that Tony Banks was classically trained, since I had read in the forum that this was an exclusivity of Keith Emerdon and other one I can't quite recall precisely, think it was some member from The Nice (besides Keith obviousy as he'd been also a band member).
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