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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:41
Baseball may shift again to allow it to be broken, but yes I really doubt it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:41
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

^ I wouldn't really count something like that because it's not really performance based. A pitcher has no control on how many games he's allowed to start. 
I suppose, but to a certain extent a player has no control over how many games he is allowed to play either.  I am just saying that it is a number that we will never see again.  Maybe more appropriately, Cy Young's career win record should also be on that list, as well as his career loss record.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:39
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Ok...I thought this is one of the better ESPN polls of late......The conversations could be endless on this one, I don't know that I have clear single choice.......What do you all think? Right now I am leaning towards B.
 
"Which baseball record set since 1941 is the most unbreakable?
 
A)  Barry Bonds 73 single season HR.
B) Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
C) Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive games played.
D) Pete Roses' 4,256 career hits
E) Nolan Ryan's 7 career ho hitters.

Of those, Bonds' record I'd think would be the easiest on to break if someone get's hot enough.  The other 4 seem to me to be significantly tougher.

I couldn't imagine anybody playing more than 16 years without being given a rest anymore.  It's probably the record of the above that the least amount of players would actually strive to break.


If Joey Bats did roids I think he could break Bond's record.
Also, I wonder if you put a guy like Miguel Cabrera or Pujols in a park like Fenway how many more home runs they would hit.  Although Cabrera has so much power to right field, he could probably set the record if he played at Yankee Stadium.  With that short fence at Yankee Stadium I suspect a big strong left-handed hitter will come along and break the record.  Just look at how many homers Granderson is hitting these days.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:37
^ I wouldn't really count something like that because it's not really performance based. A pitcher has no control on how many games he's allowed to start. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:35
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Amend question to start at 1938 and

F)  Johnny Vander Meer's two consecutive no-hitters

will be the correct answer.
G) Denny McLain 30+ wins in 1968.  Will anyone ever win 30 games in a season again with a 5-man rotation and 162 game season.  5-man rotation basically means that a starting pitcher is only going to make 32 or 33 starts during the year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:35
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Ok...I thought this is one of the better ESPN polls of late......The conversations could be endless on this one, I don't know that I have clear single choice.......What do you all think? Right now I am leaning towards B.
 
"Which baseball record set since 1941 is the most unbreakable?
 
A)  Barry Bonds 73 single season HR.
B) Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
C) Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive games played.
D) Pete Roses' 4,256 career hits
E) Nolan Ryan's 7 career ho hitters.

Of those, Bonds' record I'd think would be the easiest on to break if someone get's hot enough.  The other 4 seem to me to be significantly tougher.

I couldn't imagine anybody playing more than 16 years without being given a rest anymore.  It's probably the record of the above that the least amount of players would actually strive to break.


If Joey Bats did roids I think he could break Bond's record.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:33
Further expanding upon that:
 
The 73 home runs is quite recent and therefore seems reachable.  However, it may be more difficult to create a medically enhanced body capable of generating that much power going forward now that they are apparently serious about removing such items from the game.
 
The 56 game hitting streak is the one that is most amazing to me that it hasn't been broken.  A batter would have to go 1 for 4 or 1 for 5 every game in order to generate a batting average between .200 and .250.   That is the kind of batting average that gets players booed.  And yet, the closest anyone has gotten was Pete Rose with his 40+ streak, and players rarely even make it to a 30-game streak anymore.
 
Pete Rose's career hits record is probably pretty safe too.  His career lasted 23 years, and players rarely last that long any more.  185 hits a year over 23 years or 200 hits a year over 21 years is pretty difficult to see happening.  Jeter is 1,252 short of that right now and is 37 years old.  If he plays 6 or 7 more years at a high level then maybe, but I don't think that this is likely.  Next on the current list of possibilities would be A-Rod.  After that, maybe Pujols. 
 
I think that Verlander has his eyes and heart set on Nolan Ryan's 7 career no-hitter record.  He feels he should go out and throw a no-hitter every game.  With his stuff I think that he is capable of it, but with all of his stuff, it still takes quite a bit of luck from his friends in the field making the 15 or so plays that are needed from guys who don't strike out.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:22
Amend question to start at 1938 and

F)  Johnny Vander Meer's two consecutive no-hitters

will be the correct answer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:18
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Ok...I thought this is one of the better ESPN polls of late......The conversations could be endless on this one, I don't know that I have clear single choice.......What do you all think? Right now I am leaning towards B.
 
"Which baseball record set since 1941 is the most unbreakable?
 
A)  Barry Bonds 73 single season HR.
B) Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
C) Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive games played.
D) Pete Roses' 4,256 career hits
E) Nolan Ryan's 7 career ho hitters.

Of those, Bonds' record I'd think would be the easiest on to break if someone get's hot enough.  The other 4 seem to me to be significantly tougher.

I couldn't imagine anybody playing more than 16 years without being given a rest anymore.  It's probably the record of the above that the least amount of players would actually strive to break.
My thought was similar.  Although Ripken's string of consecutive games played may be the "Easiest" to achieve, in today's game it is the most unlikely to happen.  Hardly any players appear in every game in one season let alone 16 straight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:09
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Ok...I thought this is one of the better ESPN polls of late......The conversations could be endless on this one, I don't know that I have clear single choice.......What do you all think? Right now I am leaning towards B.
 
"Which baseball record set since 1941 is the most unbreakable?
 
A)  Barry Bonds 73 single season HR.
B) Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
C) Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive games played.
D) Pete Roses' 4,256 career hits
E) Nolan Ryan's 7 career ho hitters.

Of those, Bonds' record I'd think would be the easiest on to break if someone get's hot enough.  The other 4 seem to me to be significantly tougher.

I couldn't imagine anybody playing more than 16 years without being given a rest anymore.  It's probably the record of the above that the least amount of players would actually strive to break.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 10:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 10:18
^ That's hilarious.......gotta love the internet, things like this will never die! do we know who that Geneva mgr was/is?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:57
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Sure somebody can since Pete already did. If Ichiro had started his career here I think he may have done it.
From Wiki.  Rose was signed by the Reds as an amateur free agent on June 18, 1960, and was assigned to the Geneva Redlegs of the New York-Penn League. He played second base, pushing new teammate Tony Perez to third base.[citation needed] Pete hit only .277 and struggled in the field. However, the Geneva fans appreciated his hustling style and voted him Most Popular Player at the end of the season.[citation needed] Pete's manager in Geneva was not very positive about Pete's skills, sending a report back to Cincinnati that said, "Pete Rose can't make a double play, can't throw, can't hit left handed, and can't run."[
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:53
^ Agree.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:33
Sure somebody can since Pete already did. If Ichiro had started his career here I think he may have done it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:30
You don't think Pete Rose's is a tougher one? 4,256 ÷ 20 (seasons) = 213 hits per season...Can anybody do that?
But I do guess any of them could be broken.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:23
Nolan Ryan's 7 no hitters. I think all of them will probably be broken eventually. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 09:16
Ok...I thought this is one of the better ESPN polls of late......The conversations could be endless on this one, I don't know that I have clear single choice.......What do you all think? Right now I am leaning towards B.
 
"Which baseball record set since 1941 is the most unbreakable?
 
A)  Barry Bonds 73 single season HR.
B) Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
C) Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive games played.
D) Pete Roses' 4,256 career hits
E) Nolan Ryan's 7 career ho hitters.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 08:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 08:42
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