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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:49
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

My girl (who's a doctor) says sodas are worse than beer, and drinking beer is also better than drinking vodka, brandy, whiskey, liquors etc. on a regular basis (I don't know what's the English name of this group of drinks). But that isn't saying that drinking beer is good for health.


In moderation, I don't think it's particularly bad for health, other than that it consists of "empty" calories and if you're trying to watch caloric intake a glass of wine might be better than a beer.  But the studies done on the good effects of wine have been extended to all alcoholic beverages (again, the key is moderation - 1-2 drinks per day).

Soda really is a complete zero other than it might taste good.  At this point in my life, I've cut it out almost completely.  Most days for me it is coffee in the morning, water for lunch and dinner, and beer or wine in the evening.  Occasionally we'll have wine with dinner or I'll have a beer at lunch.  I'd like to start drinking more tea, which I have rarely.

What this has to do with libertarianism, I have no idea, other than I hope I'm free to continue to consume what I want.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:07
No complaints. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:02
I have a tradition that I have 3 beers before doing homework because it stimulates the mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:59
My girl (who's a doctor) says sodas are worse than beer, and drinking beer is also better than drinking vodka, brandy, whiskey, liquors etc. on a regular basis (I don't know what's the English name of this group of drinks). But that isn't saying that drinking beer is good for health. The only think she agrees upon as being healthy is the drinking of one glass of red wine each day. We do drink beer and cider once in a while, but not much. Our tradition says that one shot of strong liquor before lunch is good for the digestion, but she disagrees, and recently I've read a scientific article saying this tradition is false Angry LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:33
Just make sure you get a yearly checkup Rob, to check your liver and kidney function.

And I know you'll pay for it out of your own pocket, so that's on-topic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:32
Ah democracy. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:29
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Your liver might disagree with your beer vs soda assessment. 


But my kidneys agree, and there are two of them.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:27
Your liver might disagree with your beer vs soda assessment. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:23
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

You actually end up drinking less when you play beer pong. It's a fun game. I'd play it without drinking.

I don't enjoy drinking games that require you to pound beer. I pay enough for Guinness I want to actually enjoy them. 


My daily routine tends to consist of a few good beers (of Yuengling quality or higher.  I'm partial to Samuel Adams varities) then I pound cheap sh*t the rest of the night (Busch Light or Keystone Light).  I've been on a wine kick lately too.  Occasionally I enjoy liquor of whatever sort, but not too often.

I wonder how this will eventually affect my health.  All the alcoholics I know pounded heavy booze and developed liver problems.  I drink 2-3 cups of coffee a morning (or tea), about a half a gallon of water in the afternoon, and then beer the rest of the day, and beer is about 90% water. My piss stays clear most of the time, which is more than I can say for soda drinkers (before I could buy beer, I drank a lot of soda). 

I think soda is incredibly worse than beer for a person.

As Redd Foxx said though, "You'll look like a damn fool lying in the hospital dying of nothing."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:15
You actually end up drinking less when you play beer pong. It's a fun game. I'd play it without drinking.

I don't enjoy drinking games that require you to pound beer. I pay enough for Guinness I want to actually enjoy them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:14
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Very nice. 

My friend threw a 'party'. Nobody showed up besides myself and ten of my friends. We hang out every weekend so it wasn't much different. I was on fire with beer pong, but my terrible partner kept me from winning a game. Pretty early night for me; I ended up leaving around two. Good time. 


I've never once played a drinking game.  I'm pretty sure I'd drink everyone under the table and then some though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:11
Very nice. 

My friend threw a 'party'. Nobody showed up besides myself and ten of my friends. We hang out every weekend so it wasn't much different. I was on fire with beer pong, but my terrible partner kept me from winning a game. Pretty early night for me; I ended up leaving around two. Good time. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:08
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

How was your celebration last night Rob?


We danced (with the kids) to some Chuck Berry, Neil Diamond, Fleetwood Mac, Trick Pony, Shania Twain, and The Who.  Then we watched The Waterboy starring Adam Sandler.  Then we went to bed at 10 o'clock.

How about you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:05
How was your celebration last night Rob?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:04
For a multi-billion dollar example see the war on personal freedom drugs. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 10:01
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 


This is what I'm saying.  For a different example, laws that tell sex offenders they can't go on school grounds.  Okay, let's see here...do people really think a sex offender will say "Gee, I'd really like to have my way with a 7-year-old boy today, but gosh darn it, the new law says I'm not allowed to go the a school or a park.  Aw well.  Let's see what's on TV."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:59
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 

I think at 7 I was partial to spinning around and making myself dizzy. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:57
People get their causality mixed up. They seem to think that laws dictates popular behavior, but popular behavior becomes law. To remove a law against drinking is only to remove an after effect of an existing social belief about drinking.

Clearly in the states 21 is absurd, but it's equally absurd to think that without a law against a drinking age we would see 7 year old kids getting loaded at the corner dive. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 09:55
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've done my bit to close the racial gap in my personal life. Big smile
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Yellowed with beer?

You're getting into a whole weird area there. Shocked

By the way this whole we shall never die thing sounds a bit religious.  But then again maybe Libertarianism is a religion and a weird little cult at that. Wink


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