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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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If he couldn't field 10ish years ago, he certainly can't do it now. He wasn't a very good 1B from what I remember in Florida even. I'm a little surprise they didn't go after Headley from the Padres and Ramirez from the Cubs. They seem like the two 3B on the market who would actually be a significant upgrade. Maybe they're not dealing or the asking price is too high. It's hard to just a trade without having a good idea of the exact market conditions. |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66576 |
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Now for my naive question. How does the waiver rule work? If another team decides to claim Inge off of waivers does that mean that they have to pick up his two-year contract and pay him, or would the Tigers still have to pay his contract? Or if another team does claiming him off of waivers does that mean that they have a certain number of days to work out a trade with the Tigers or the Tigers would have to remove him from waivers?
As I recall, come August, teams usually waive a number of guys as a procedure to get them through the process of waivers so that if a trade opportunity does arise they can trade them and if one of their competitors tries to claim them to stop a trade they can pull them back off of waivers.
Edit: Good ol' Wikipedia:
Waivers
Any player under contract may be placed on waivers ("waived") at any time. After MLB's July 31 trade deadline and through to the end of the season, however, a team must place a player on waivers if that player is to be eligible to be traded. If a player is waived, any team may claim him. If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference. In the first month of the season, preference is determined using the previous year's standings. If a team claims a player off waivers and has a viable claim as described above, his current team (the "waiving team") may choose one of the following options:
If a player is claimed and the waiving team exercises its rescission option, the waiving team may not use the option again for that player in that season. If no team claims a player off waivers after three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded (to any team), or released outright. The waiver "wire" is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs; no announcement of a waiver is made until a transaction actually occurs. Many players are often quietly waived during the August "waiver-required" trading period to gauge trade interest in a particular player. Usually, when the player is claimed, the waiving team will rescind the waiver to avoid losing the player unless a trade can be worked out with the claiming team. Edited by rushfan4 - July 21 2011 at 09:49 |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66576 |
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Omar is hitting .253 with 1 homer and 27 RBIs with a .298 OBP, so not really much of an improvement over Inge other than batting average.
Maybe they could have traded Inge to the White Sox for Adam Dunn.
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66576 |
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Don Kelly has been serviceable as a replacement at 3rd base, but wasn't really the answer. The Tigers have Danny Worth, who can play 3rd base, who batted .300 in limited at-bats earlier in the year. Again, probably not the answer, but probably as good a choice as Betemit.
They have Will Rhymes playing 2nd base at AAA. He was pretty good in the Majors last year, but pretty bad back in April, but apparently played well enough to make the AAA All-Star team this year. They could bring him up and move Guillen back to 3rd base. Probably not the best solution with his legs, and he was pretty so-so as a 3rd baseman when they experimented with it a couple of years ago.
They could possibly trade for a shortstop who they could move to 3rd base, or move Peralta over to 3rd base, where he was playing for the Indians before we traded for him last year. He is hitting so well this year, they are probably afraid that moving him to 3rd base would make him unhappy, and negatively effect his hitting.
Miguel Cabrera was originally a 3rd baseman at Florida, and when the Tigers traded for him they initially planned on having him play 3rd base. They could trade for a slugging 1st baseman and move Cabrera back to 3rd base. Who knows if he can still play 3rd or not, and apparently he wasn't a very good fielder as a 3rd baseman.
There was a rumor that the Tigers might trade for former Tiger Omar Infante to play 3rd base. I kind of liked that rumor. He was a decent player for the Tigers while he was here, and he made the All-Star team with the Braves last year. I'm not sure how he is doing with the Marlins this year, but I think that he would have been a better addition than Betemit.
Of course, all of the above are GM moves that I might make from my armchair, but who knows which ones were considered and rejected or just not possible to make.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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There's kind of a dearth of 3B talent in the league right now. They didn't have much of a choice.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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They have a shot to make the playoffs. Making the playoffs would generate huge revenue for them It's worth the risk. Pena's triple slash is .227/.341/.458. Umm who wouldn't take that OBP and SLG? Who cares what the BA is? Plus his BABIP is below his career norm and we could expect regression. More importantly, they have absolutely nothing coming from Overbay. |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Well the Buccos lost today but they took the series . I believe that it was the 12th that they won this year., Quite an improvement over last years team. Even with all the injuries they are still winning games.
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The Truth ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 19 2009 Location: Kansas Status: Offline Points: 21795 |
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Royals had a good finish tonight and of course Bruce Chen pitched well.
Thank God for Alex Gordon though, guy is eventually going to be an all-star. |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13203 |
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Tigers make a good trade for Wilson Betemit, and immediately placed that human strikeout/pop foul/error machine Brandon Inge for assignment. The Tigers improve by subtraction, as a street sign would hit for better average than Inge (currently hovering around .170).
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Yeah, the Buccos (I still have my money on Luckos, at this point, by the way) could use an expensive .200 batting average in their lineup. If the Pirates bring in a name player I will be shocked and, actually, think it would be yet another bad decision. Who are the best names out there? Pence? He's a money disaster in a couple years. Beltran? Pfffft, old and injury prone.
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Uggh. A Toronto fan interfered with a line drive, which cost us a run. Good thing it didn't make a difference.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Wonder if that's connected. I would guess not actually. |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Back to back shutouts of the Reds. Either the Reds are bad or they got some underrated pitching.
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Well they already announced that they will raise ticket prices next year. They haven't raised prices since 2003. |
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Last month I heard Beltran possibly to the M's.......we need the stick for sure. But at 9 games under .500 and probably 13 games out of first...now does not make sense.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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