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Points: 19236 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2011 at 13:28
I am happy to see the Buccos being part of the Monday night baseball vs. the Braves. I can't remember the last time they were on a national telecast.
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The cubs are baffling. They have some really good bats....Ramirez, Soriano, Byrd, Castro, Barney, Soto, Pena....and yet they are big time losers, that is not a bad line up, it must be there pitching, who can tell me??
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Looks like our offense is going to have to win this one.
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Points: 19236 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2011 at 12:54
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Back to earth for the Buccos. Pitching is failing them now. No bats to be found.


Didn't they win yesterday?


I posted prior to the win that the Cards gave to them. I'll take it but it was an ugly win. If Molina was playing I think that the outcome would have been different.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2011 at 09:36
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Back to earth for the Buccos. Pitching is failing them now. No bats to be found.


Didn't they win yesterday?
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I didn't watch yesterday's game, but I'm glad to see Brett Cecil pitched a great one during a rough season for him.  His first career complete game shutout.

The Hall of Fame ceremony was yesterday, and it was great to see 2 Jays guys get inducted (Robbie Alomar and GM Pat Gillick) as well as Bert Blyleven.  I wonder who'll get in next year.  Will a known roid user make it?
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Back to earth for the Buccos. Pitching is failing them now. No bats to be found.
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Those Royals may have a record comparable to the Bad News Bears but man have they had some awesome finishes. This series against the Rays has turned out to be really fun to watch. Thumbs Up
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Today was an amazing baseball day.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Ok its official.......I am now rooting for the Phillies.

As long as they have Halladay, they're my team in the NL.  I just want to see him win it all one day.
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Ok its official.......I am now rooting for the Phillies.
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Points: 19236 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:46
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

It would make sense. They could also look at Pena. I think they should really be interest in adding a SP.
Carlos or Wily Mo or Brayan or other?


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Yeah, the Buccos (I still have my money on Luckos, at this point, by the way) could use an expensive .200 batting average in their lineup.  If the Pirates bring in a name player I will be shocked and, actually, think it would be yet another bad decision.  Who are the best names out there?  Pence? He's a money disaster in a couple years.  Beltran? Pfffft, old and injury prone.


They have a shot to make the playoffs. Making the playoffs would generate huge revenue for them It's worth the risk. Pena's triple slash is .227/.341/.458. Umm who wouldn't take that OBP and SLG? Who cares what the BA is? Plus his BABIP is below his career norm and we could expect regression. More importantly, they have absolutely nothing coming from Overbay.
 
 
I am of the belief that Carlos Pena's value outside of claustrophobic Wrigley Field is right around $0, which is nowhere near his current $9,959,997.  Overbay is awful as well but they don't need to go throwing money at a marginally better player who is only one year younger and has no future with the team.  What they should do is invest money into finding a young first basemen with potential upside.  For less money they might be able to aquire Chris Davis from the Texas Rangers who is 8 years younger than Pena and could either A) finally show his potential through a change of scenery or B) put up similar numbers to what Carlos Pena would in a non-hitters park (PNC being a pitchers park)


The Pirates aren't competitors next year. They're competitors this year due mostly to luck. I think they should run with it and act like any other team down 1 game would in their position.


I'll take luck,chemistry and timing hitting and pitching if it is going to end the streak. As to next year who knows how the NL central will pan out if Albert jumps ship for more money. I am hoping that the streak ends this year and it is only the beginning of many winning seasons to come.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 15:00
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

It would make sense. They could also look at Pena. I think they should really be interest in adding a SP.
Carlos or Wily Mo or Brayan or other?


Carlos
 
 
Yeah, the Buccos (I still have my money on Luckos, at this point, by the way) could use an expensive .200 batting average in their lineup.  If the Pirates bring in a name player I will be shocked and, actually, think it would be yet another bad decision.  Who are the best names out there?  Pence? He's a money disaster in a couple years.  Beltran? Pfffft, old and injury prone.


They have a shot to make the playoffs. Making the playoffs would generate huge revenue for them It's worth the risk. Pena's triple slash is .227/.341/.458. Umm who wouldn't take that OBP and SLG? Who cares what the BA is? Plus his BABIP is below his career norm and we could expect regression. More importantly, they have absolutely nothing coming from Overbay.
 
 
I am of the belief that Carlos Pena's value outside of claustrophobic Wrigley Field is right around $0, which is nowhere near his current $9,959,997.  Overbay is awful as well but they don't need to go throwing money at a marginally better player who is only one year younger and has no future with the team.  What they should do is invest money into finding a young first basemen with potential upside.  For less money they might be able to aquire Chris Davis from the Texas Rangers who is 8 years younger than Pena and could either A) finally show his potential through a change of scenery or B) put up similar numbers to what Carlos Pena would in a non-hitters park (PNC being a pitchers park)


The Pirates aren't competitors next year. They're competitors this year due mostly to luck. I think they should run with it and act like any other team down 1 game would in their position.
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Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 14:25
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

It would make sense. They could also look at Pena. I think they should really be interest in adding a SP.
Carlos or Wily Mo or Brayan or other?


Carlos
 
 
Yeah, the Buccos (I still have my money on Luckos, at this point, by the way) could use an expensive .200 batting average in their lineup.  If the Pirates bring in a name player I will be shocked and, actually, think it would be yet another bad decision.  Who are the best names out there?  Pence? He's a money disaster in a couple years.  Beltran? Pfffft, old and injury prone.


They have a shot to make the playoffs. Making the playoffs would generate huge revenue for them It's worth the risk. Pena's triple slash is .227/.341/.458. Umm who wouldn't take that OBP and SLG? Who cares what the BA is? Plus his BABIP is below his career norm and we could expect regression. More importantly, they have absolutely nothing coming from Overbay.
 
 
I am of the belief that Carlos Pena's value outside of claustrophobic Wrigley Field is right around $0, which is nowhere near his current $9,959,997.  Overbay is awful as well but they don't need to go throwing money at a marginally better player who is only one year younger and has no future with the team.  What they should do is invest money into finding a young first basemen with potential upside.  For less money they might be able to aquire Chris Davis from the Texas Rangers who is 8 years younger than Pena and could either A) finally show his potential through a change of scenery or B) put up similar numbers to what Carlos Pena would in a non-hitters park (PNC being a pitchers park)


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Points: 1003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 12:16
I wonder if there's an unfortunate team we can dump Frank Francisco onto.  You should be relieved if all he does is give up a solo HR in an appearance.
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Points: 66576 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 10:39
Apparently he doesn't want to be traded because his family is up from the Dominican Republic and staying with him.  The article I read said that his family is going back to the Domincan in August and that he might be open to a trade after that. 
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That would explain it. I would do just about anything to get off of the Cubs roster to be honest with you.
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Points: 66576 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 09:55
Apparently, Ramirez says that he won't waive his no-trade clause.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 09:51
I'm sure they would have expected the Cubs to take on some of that salary. It could have been what held up the deal (if there was talk). 
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Points: 66576 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 09:48
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 
Miguel Cabrera was originally a 3rd baseman at Florida, and when the Tigers traded for him they initially planned on having him play 3rd base.  They could trade for a slugging 1st baseman and move Cabrera back to 3rd base.  Who knows if he can still play 3rd or not, and apparently he wasn't a very good fielder as a 3rd baseman.


If he couldn't field 10ish years ago, he certainly can't do it now. He wasn't a very good 1B from what I remember in Florida even.

I'm a little surprise they didn't go after Headley from the Padres and Ramirez from the Cubs. They seem like the two 3B on the market who would actually be a significant upgrade. Maybe they're not dealing or the asking price is too high. It's hard to just a trade without having a good idea of the exact market conditions.
Ramirez rumors existed but at $15 million this year and $16 million next year I think that his contract was too rich for the Tigers to make the move.  I'm not sure if anything was discussed regarding Headley, or maybe Mark Reynolds from Baltimore. 
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