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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:46

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Steve Hackett > Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins = Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford = Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel >> Jon Anderson

Tony Banks >> Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations << Yes

Tresspass  >  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime > The Yes Album

Foxtrot >> Fragile

Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge

Genesis Live < Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail > Relayer

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one

And there were three > Tormato

Duke = Drama

Genesis < 90125

Acabab < Big Generator

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Genesis > Yes

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 08:29

Members

Steve Hackett > Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins > Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson

Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations <<< Yes

Tresspass  <  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot < Fragile

Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge

Genesis Live > Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail < Relayer

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one

And there were three <<< Tormato

Duke <<<< Drama

Genesis <<<< 90125

Acabab << Big Generator

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:56

YES!

I personally find Genesis extremely boring. Good music(till the 80's) and good musicians but it does nothing to me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:38
I'm not going to compare the musicians because I think they're all brilliant.
As far as the albums go

From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes

Tresspass  vs  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album (just)

Foxtrot (for Supper's Ready) vs Fragile

Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (just)

Genesis Live vs Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail vs Relayer by a mile

Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one

And there were three vs Tormato

Duke vs Drama

Genesis vs 90125

Acabab vs Big Generator

Very hard to compare up until ATTWT then Yes win by a mile.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:02

Steve Hackett << Steve Howe

Phil Collins = Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins << Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson (Jon sounds like an angel, Peter like a lamb on broadway)

Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations < Yes

Tresspass < Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot = Fragile

Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge

Genesis Live < Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail << Relayer

Wind and Wuthering << Going for the one

And there were three < Tormato

Duke < Drama

Genesis < 90125

Acabab < Big Generator

 

Not very hard since I as you may have understod like YES much more

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:53
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it

I like it too.

So do I... "Abacab" is IMHO the best "pop" album Genesis has ever made.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:44
Steve Hackett < Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson

Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman

Albums

From Genesis to REvelations = Yes
Tresspass  <  Time and a Word
Nursery Crime > The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail > Relayer
Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one
And there were three < Tormato
Duke < Drama
Genesis < 90125
Acabab = Big Generator

Which means..
Genesis < Yes

Although both are great bands and the 2 most important prog bands IMO !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:05

Members

Steve Hackett < Steve Howe

Phil Collins = Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins <<  Bill Bruford ( Bruford is the prog drummer!!!)

Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel =  Jon Anderson (2 genius!!!)

Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations << Yes

Tresspass  =  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile

Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge

Genesis Live vs Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadways >> Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail< Relayer

Wind and Wuthering = Going for the one (but "turn of the century" is a monument!!!!)

And there were three > Tormato

Duke = Drama

Genesis << 90125

Acabab < Big Generator

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 05:56

Members

Steve Hackett > Steve Howe (IMO)

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford > Chris Squire (Much more dynamic, and plays guitar too)

Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson (Matter of taste)

Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman (Far more subtle)

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to Revelations < Yes

Tresspass  >  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime > The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile

Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge

Genesis Live > Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans

Trick of the tail > Relayer

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one

And there were three = Tormato (Both going downhill)

Duke < Drama (I HATE Duke)

Genesis > 90125 (For Mama only)

Acabab = Big Generator (Oh christ...)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:46

Steve Hackett = Steve Howe (atmospheres vs flamboyancy).

Phil Collins > Alan White (would Yes have survived with Alan White singing Jon's stuff?)

Edit : Phil Collins <= Bill Bruford

Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire (doubleneck vs tripleneck)

Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson

Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman (great arrangements vs great playing)

 

Albums

Nursery Crime >= The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile (= Nursery Crime)

Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge

Genesis Live < Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail < Relayer (never change a winning team vs always change a losing team)

Wind and Wuthering <= Going for the one (Awaken saves the day)

And there were three - Tormato (both suck)

Duke > Drama (and Abacab = Drama)

Genesis = 90125 (both not bad)

Invisible Touch - Big Generator

We Cannot Dance <= Union

Calling all stations?

So what does this all mean?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:44
Steve Hackett = Steve Howe

Phil Collins >> Alan White

Phil Collins < Bill Bruford

Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson

Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to Revelations < Yes

Trespass  >  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile

Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (WOW, This one's a tough one! Like picking your favourite child...)

Genesis Live < Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >> Tales of Topographic Oceans

Trick of the Tail = Relayer (Another tough one...)

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the One

And Then There Were Three >> Tormato

Duke Drama

Genesis > 90125

Abacab >> Big Generator


In the end, it's really all subjective. In general I believe YES' individual musicians are superior, and their level of virtuosity is astounding. But the individual members of GENESIS (like the FLOYD) outweigh the sum of their parts...

Genesis > Yes




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 03:13

Members

Steve Hackett = Steve Howe

Phil Collins < Bill Bruford 

Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson

Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes (haven't heard either of them)

Tresspass  vs  Time and a Word     (haven't heard either of them) 

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot = Fragile (Such a hard decision! They both have fabulous guitar pieces that I know how to play.)

Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (Equally as great)

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Musicianship on "Tales..." was much greater than it was on "Lamb...". Genesis on "Lamb..." sort of held back and it seemed that Peter Gabriel was the most featured member.)

Trick of the tail > Relayer (Simply because "Entangled" is one of my favorite Genesis songs. Also because these are two very different albums. I have to be in a certain "experimental" mood to listen to "Relayer".)

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one ("Going for the One" does almost nothing for me. A few good tracks. "Wind and Wuthering" has some beautiful instrumentals and a fine classical guitar piece.)

And there were three < Tormato (Genesis had lost Steve Hackett at this point, and it only went downhill from there. However, Yes still had Steve Howe, and "Future Times/Rejoice" is a wonderful song.)

Duke = Drama (I don't care much for either of these.)

Genesis < 90125 (I'm a sucker for "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and "Leave it".)

Acabab < Big Generator (Abacab is probably the worst Genesis album. I enjoy a lot of songs on "Big Generator", however.)

...

Genesis = Yes

They both had their good and bad moments, but since they had different styles and great musicians on both sides, it's hard for me to say which is better than the other overall.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:38
Genesis all the way... although I think Going For The One is slightly better than Wind & Wuthering.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:36

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it

I like it too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:19
 damm, can't say much because i don't know really any of yes, so it's genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:56
Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:53

My choices are in red, the size marks how better is one from the other.

Members

Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe

Phil Collins vs Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins vs Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson

Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes

Tresspass  vs  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album

Foxtrot vs Fragile

Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (Slightly better)

Genesis Live vs Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail vs Relayer

Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one

And there were three vs Tormato (Neither)

Duke vs Drama

Genesis vs 90125 (even when both are bad)

Acabab vs Big Generator (Neither)

Iván

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:41

Steve Hackett < Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Phil Collins << Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford <<< Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson

Tony Banks < or = Rick Wakeman

<>
Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations > Yes

Tresspass  >  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile

Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge

Genesis Live > Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Very hard choice for me)

Trick By the tail < Relayer

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one

And there were three - Tormato (neither)

Duke > Drama

Genesis > 90125

Acabab > Big Generator

That was actually a lot harder for me to do than I thought it would be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:29

 

 

    The two are the best bands ever and I have always seen enormous parallels

  Yes > From Genesis to revelation

  Time and a word = Trespass

  The yes album = Nursery Cryme

  Fragile > Foxtrot

  Selling England > Close to the Edge

  The Lamb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Tales

  Relayer > A trick of the Tail

 Going for the One > Wind and wuthering

 Tormato > ATTWT

 Duke > Drama

 90125 > Genesis

Abacab > Big generator

 Peter Gabriel = John Anderson ( Now if John had Peter's emotion and John Peter's voice)

 Phil Collins > Any yes drummer ( I think he has more musical input abilities than he is given credit for

 Chris Squire > Mike Rutherford

 Steve Hackett = Steve Howe ( If Hackett had Howe's skill and Howe had Hackett's touch)

 Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman ( Rick has more skill and more instruments but Tony's compositional skill is better )

 

  And for a lifetime career study

  Genesis > Yes for three main reasons : their double album was miles better than Tales, their albums were longer and less repetitious making more bang for your buck and their sell out was more successful. I think a new release by Gabriel Hackett Rutherford Collins and Banks would be more exciting than any Yes release.

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:08
Originally posted by Parker Parker wrote:

Peter Gabriel >>>>>>>>> Jon Anderson ( was that to exaggerated?)

Peter brings much more emotin and meaning than Jon. Just think if Peter did " I get up I get down"

I don't think it would sound very good at all as Gabriel just dosn't have the range also he can't sustain a note without his voice warbling!

Gabriel visually but not the better singer IMHO!

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