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Dragon Phoenix
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Joined: August 31 2004
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Points: 1475
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:46 |
Members
Steve Hackett > Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins = Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford = Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel >> Jon Anderson
Tony Banks >> Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations << Yes
Tresspass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime > The Yes Album
Foxtrot >> Fragile
Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail > Relayer
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one
And there were three > Tormato
Duke = Drama
Genesis < 90125
Acabab < Big Generator
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Genesis > Yes
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Snow Dog
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Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
Status: Offline
Points: 32995
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 08:29 |
Members
Steve Hackett > Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins > Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson
Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations <<< Yes
Tresspass < Time and a Word
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot < Fragile
Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge
Genesis Live > Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail < Relayer
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one
And there were three <<< Tormato
Duke <<<< Drama
Genesis <<<< 90125
Acabab << Big Generator
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Jeremy Bender
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Joined: April 29 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 531
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:56 |
YES!
I personally find Genesis extremely boring. Good music(till the 80's) and good musicians but it does nothing to me.
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chopper
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Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
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Points: 20031
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:38 |
I'm not going to compare the musicians because I think they're all brilliant.
As far as the albums go
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes
Tresspass vs Time and a Word
Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album (just)
Foxtrot (for Supper's Ready) vs Fragile
Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (just)
Genesis Live vs Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail vs Relayer by a mile
Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one
And there were three vs Tormato
Duke vs Drama
Genesis vs 90125
Acabab vs Big Generator
Very hard to compare up until ATTWT then Yes win by a mile.
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Zargus
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Joined: May 08 2005
Location: Sweden
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Points: 3491
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:02 |
Steve Hackett << Steve Howe
Phil Collins = Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins << Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson (Jon sounds like an angel, Peter like a lamb on broadway)
Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations < Yes
Tresspass < Time and a Word
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot = Fragile
Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail << Relayer
Wind and Wuthering << Going for the one
And there were three < Tormato
Duke < Drama
Genesis < 90125
Acabab < Big Generator
Not very hard since I as you may have understod like YES much more
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M. B. Zapelini
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 21 2005
Location: Brazil
Status: Offline
Points: 773
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:53 |
Mategra wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it |
I like it too.
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So do I... "Abacab" is IMHO the best "pop" album Genesis has ever made.
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Logos
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 08 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 2383
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:44 |
Steve Hackett < Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson
Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations = Yes
Tresspass < Time and a Word
Nursery Crime > The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail > Relayer
Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one
And there were three < Tormato
Duke < Drama
Genesis < 90125
Acabab = Big Generator
Which means..
Genesis < Yes
Although both are great bands and the 2 most important prog bands IMO !
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Earthbound
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Joined: July 29 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 5
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:05 |
Members
Steve Hackett < Steve Howe
Phil Collins = Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins << Bill Bruford ( Bruford is the prog drummer!!!)
Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson (2 genius!!!)
Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations << Yes
Tresspass = Time and a Word
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge
Genesis Live vs Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadways >> Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail< Relayer
Wind and Wuthering = Going for the one (but "turn of the century" is a monument!!!!)
And there were three > Tormato
Duke = Drama
Genesis << 90125
Acabab < Big Generator
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Publius
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 14 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 382
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 05:56 |
Members
Steve Hackett > Steve Howe (IMO)
Phil Collins > Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford > Chris Squire (Much more dynamic, and plays guitar too)
Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson (Matter of taste)
Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman (Far more subtle)
Albums
From Genesis to Revelations < Yes
Tresspass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime > The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge
Genesis Live > Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans
Trick of the tail > Relayer
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one
And there were three = Tormato (Both going downhill)
Duke < Drama (I HATE Duke)
Genesis > 90125 (For Mama only)
Acabab = Big Generator (Oh christ...)
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Sir Hogweed
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 29 2005
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 191
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:46 |
Steve Hackett = Steve Howe (atmospheres vs flamboyancy).
Phil Collins > Alan White (would Yes have survived with Alan White singing Jon's stuff?)
Edit : Phil Collins <= Bill Bruford
Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire (doubleneck vs tripleneck)
Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson
Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman (great arrangements vs great playing)
Albums
Nursery Crime >= The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile (= Nursery Crime)
Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail < Relayer (never change a winning team vs always change a losing team)
Wind and Wuthering <= Going for the one (Awaken saves the day)
And there were three - Tormato (both suck)
Duke > Drama (and Abacab = Drama)
Genesis = 90125 (both not bad)
Invisible Touch - Big Generator
We Cannot Dance <= Union
Calling all stations?
So what does this all mean?
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Cluster One
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 780
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:44 |
Steve Hackett = Steve Howe
Phil Collins >> Alan White
Phil Collins < Bill Bruford
Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson
Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to Revelations < Yes
Trespass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (WOW, This one's a tough one! Like picking your favourite child...)
Genesis Live < Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >> Tales of Topographic Oceans
Trick of the Tail = Relayer (Another tough one...)
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the One
And Then There Were Three >> Tormato
Duke = Drama
Genesis > 90125
Abacab >> Big Generator
In the end, it's really all subjective. In general I believe YES'
individual musicians are superior, and their level of virtuosity is
astounding. But the individual members of GENESIS (like the FLOYD)
outweigh the sum of their parts...
Genesis > Yes
Edited by Cluster One
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Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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nousommedusolei
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 26 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 233
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 03:13 |
Members
Steve Hackett = Steve Howe
Phil Collins < Bill Bruford
Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson
Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes (haven't heard either of them)
Tresspass vs Time and a Word (haven't heard either of them)
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot = Fragile (Such a hard decision! They both have fabulous guitar pieces that I know how to play.)
Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (Equally as great)
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Musicianship on "Tales..." was much greater than it was on "Lamb...". Genesis on "Lamb..." sort of held back and it seemed that Peter Gabriel was the most featured member.)
Trick of the tail > Relayer (Simply because "Entangled" is one of my favorite Genesis songs. Also because these are two very different albums. I have to be in a certain "experimental" mood to listen to "Relayer".)
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one ("Going for the One" does almost nothing for me. A few good tracks. "Wind and Wuthering" has some beautiful instrumentals and a fine classical guitar piece.)
And there were three < Tormato (Genesis had lost Steve Hackett at this point, and it only went downhill from there. However, Yes still had Steve Howe, and "Future Times/Rejoice" is a wonderful song.)
Duke = Drama (I don't care much for either of these.)
Genesis < 90125 (I'm a sucker for "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and "Leave it".)
Acabab < Big Generator (Abacab is probably the worst Genesis album. I enjoy a lot of songs on "Big Generator", however.)
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Genesis = Yes
They both had their good and bad moments, but since they had different styles and great musicians on both sides, it's hard for me to say which is better than the other overall.
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I don't believe in demons
I don't believe in devils
I only believe in you
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Mategra
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 23 2004
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 592
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:38 |
Genesis all the way... although I think Going For The One is slightly better than Wind & Wuthering.
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Mategra
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Joined: August 23 2004
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 592
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:36 |
meurglysIII wrote:
Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it |
I like it too.
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RUM26
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Joined: July 10 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 241
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:19 |
damm, can't say much because i don't know really any of yes, so it's genesis.
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Zac M
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Joined: July 03 2005
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Points: 3577
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:56 |
Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:53 |
My choices are in red, the size marks how better is one from the other.
Members
Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe
Phil Collins vs Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins vs Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson
Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes
Tresspass vs Time and a Word
Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album
Foxtrot vs Fragile
Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (Slightly better)
Genesis Live vs Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans
Trick By the tail vs Relayer
Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one
And there were three vs Tormato (Neither)
Duke vs Drama
Genesis vs 90125 (even when both are bad)
Acabab vs Big Generator (Neither)
Iván
Edited by ivan_2068
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Endless_Enigma
Forum Newbie
Joined: April 05 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 23
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:41 |
Steve Hackett < Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White
Phil Collins << Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford <<< Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson
Tony Banks < or = Rick Wakeman
<>
Albums>
From Genesis to REvelations > Yes
Tresspass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime < The Yes Album
Foxtrot > Fragile
Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge
Genesis Live > Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Very hard choice for me)
Trick By the tail < Relayer
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one
And there were three - Tormato (neither)
Duke > Drama
Genesis > 90125
Acabab > Big Generator
That was actually a lot harder for me to do than I thought it would be.
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Losendos
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 571
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:29 |
The two are the best bands ever and I have always seen enormous parallels
Yes > From Genesis to revelation
Time and a word = Trespass
The yes album = Nursery Cryme
Fragile > Foxtrot
Selling England > Close to the Edge
The Lamb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Tales
Relayer > A trick of the Tail
Going for the One > Wind and wuthering
Tormato > ATTWT
Duke > Drama
90125 > Genesis
Abacab > Big generator
Peter Gabriel = John Anderson ( Now if John had Peter's emotion and John Peter's voice)
Phil Collins > Any yes drummer ( I think he has more musical input abilities than he is given credit for
Chris Squire > Mike Rutherford
Steve Hackett = Steve Howe ( If Hackett had Howe's skill and Howe had Hackett's touch)
Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman ( Rick has more skill and more instruments but Tony's compositional skill is better )
And for a lifetime career study
Genesis > Yes for three main reasons : their double album was miles better than Tales, their albums were longer and less repetitious making more bang for your buck and their sell out was more successful. I think a new release by Gabriel Hackett Rutherford Collins and Banks would be more exciting than any Yes release.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Progger
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Joined: April 26 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1188
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Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:08 |
Parker wrote:
Peter Gabriel >>>>>>>>> Jon Anderson ( was that to exaggerated?)
Peter brings much more emotin and meaning than Jon. Just think if Peter did " I get up I get down"
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I don't think it would sound very good at all as Gabriel just dosn't have the range also he can't sustain a note without his voice warbling!
Gabriel visually but not the better singer IMHO!
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