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Textbook

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Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:33

Could it be more European?

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Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:11

I must admit I never was much of a comic book reader. But I do love the Canardo series of Benoit Sokal. Here the front page of the first book of the Canardo series::

http://bd.casterman.com/docs/Albums/4584/9782203335035.jpg

Edited by BaldFriede - June 14 2012 at 06:17

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Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:03

Except The Boys isn't Vertigo.

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Posted: June 14 2012 at 05:52

Textbook wrote:

If we do throw in Vertigo, things start to look pretty grim for Marvel. What a list of classics:

Hellblazer

Sandman

The Exterminators

Preacher

Transmetropolitan

Y The Last Man

So good, all of these. I'd also add The Boys to the list.

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Posted: June 14 2012 at 05:41

DC for comics. Marvel for movies.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:39

BF: Daredevil was actually kind of crappy originally- it was one of two titles (the other being X-Men) that had run for years and were nearing cancellation. Some new staffers at Marvel wanted a place to stretch their muscles and Marvel figured that because Daredevil and X-Men weren't selling well anyway, there was nothing to lose. Frank Miller was given Daredevil, Chris Claremont given X-Men and both were virtually free of editorial mandate as there wasn't much of a sales base to worry about preserving. Virtually overnight, X-Men became Marvel's biggest seller and Daredevil its biggest critical hit as the books were completely reinvented, breaking away from the once-refreshing-but-now-stale "Marvel Method" of Stan Lee.

Frank Miller's Daredevil run (Vol 1 158-191) is necessary reading for anyone who wants to understand the recent evolution of comics and is still considered one of the highpoints of superhero tales. But the character has remained critically respected with a run of writers (Kevin Smith, Brian Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Andy Diggle) that have kept the comic worthwhile. (OK so Shadowland was a bit pants but it was no Fear Itself.)

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:32

If we do throw in Vertigo, things start to look pretty grim for Marvel. What a list of classics:

Hellblazer

Swamp Thing

Sweet Tooth

Sandman

The Unwritten

Fables

Jack Of Fables

The Invisibles

The Exterminators

Doom Patrol

Lucifer

Preacher

Transmetropolitan

Y The Last Man

Scalped

Sandman Mystery Theatre

Shade The Changing Man

The Dreaming

American Vampire

The Losers

And there's others still (like DMZ and Northlanders which I didn't forget, I don't like them, but I know other people do.)

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:27

dtguitarfan wrote:

The Truth wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.

ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

Yeah, that's why Marvel keeps making millions on their movies and the DC ones (except for Batman) are all flops....
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Didn't kniow we were talking about the films.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:23

Yes, I just looked it up. The German name for the series was "Devilman - Ein Teufelskerl". "Teufeskerl" is the German word for "Daredevil".

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:22

They've already confirmed that Batman will be rebooted after this film. Bale's going and Ledger's death messed up their intentions for the Joker. Starting again will sort things out.

What really made me cross was Green Lantern. Green Lantern has fantastic material for a series of movies, but they just screwed it up. The problem wasn't Reynolds- I think he was a good choice actually. The problem was a rotten script and clueless direction.

BF: Yes, that is Daredevil and as for "anyone remembering him", he is one of Marvel's most enduring characters and is quite regularly among their most critically acclaimed franchises.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:19

^Sounds like Daredevil. Not hard to remember him. The comic is still going and there was a film.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:17

Does anybody remember Devilman? It was a black-and-white series about a superhero who behaved a lot like Batman (like swinging from house to house on a rope).. But he had one handicap: He was blind. My brother used to read that series.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:50

The Truth wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.

ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

Yeah, that's why Marvel keeps making millions on their movies and the DC ones (except for Batman) are all flops....
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:38

Textbook wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if DC are working on copying Marvel and producing the movies themselves.

I've actually heard rumors that the upcoming Flash and Superman movies are going to lead into a Justice League film in 2015 or so, like Marvel did with the Avengers franchise. It's still just a rumor, though, and if they did do that they'd have to reboot Batman again.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:34

I wouldn't be surprised if DC are working on copying Marvel and producing the movies themselves.

Some people think including Vertigo is "cheating" as Marvel doesn't have an equivalent, but Fables on Vertigo is almost certainly the best comic currently being produced.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:29

DC for me. I just like the universe and storytelling aesthetic better than Marvel; it's generally less cynical and more fantastic, and I usually prefer fantasy over realism. Also, Kingdom Come (my all-time favorite graphic novel) is a DC book, so there you go.

Marvel absolutley demolishes DC in the movie department, though, even what with Nolan reviving the Bat-franchise. The Avengers was just freaking amazing.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:39

I read a few issues of Y: The Last Man - not really my thing. I don't care for the art style or the dialogue. Would've been an interesting concept in the hands of a guy like Jose Saramago, but the three issues I read didn't catch me in the slightest.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 14:55

Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.

ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 14:32

I have a collection of Superman paraphernalia...but I actually prefer Marvel comic books. Go figure.

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Posted: June 13 2012 at 07:09

I have never met an Archie fan, yet they keep producing the damn thing decade after decade. I suspect it's a front for money laundering.

I once wrote a mock article about how comic fans across the land were incredibly shocked to learnt that Archie had still not been canceled.

Once it became clear that a threesome between Archie, Betty and Veronica was never gonna happen, it lost its appeal.

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