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Topic: Marvel vs DC
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: Marvel vs DC
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 17:42
I'm a big Marvel fan (I literally have thousands, yes thousands, of Marvel comics) but the choice isn't as easy as that would make it seem. Because while Marvel creams DC in the silver age, by the time Vertigo comes along DC seriously starts to get its act together.
 
I still go with Marvel- I think they have a better stable of characters than DC. (DC has my single favourite character, Batman, but they have loads of others that don't interest me.) But I began to waver for a minute there because DC does its events SO much better than Marvel.
 
Just compare the brilliance of Blackest Night, just about the best executed event ever, with the total turd that was Fear Itself. And it's not just that one event, in general DCs events are much better managed. With Marvel in particular being so relentlessly event oriented ever since Disassembled, this is a major point. Basically every Marvel event since (and including) Disassembled has taken a really exciting premise, started really well and then fizzles out with a narrative that becomes increasingly diluted and patchy. Throw in big changes to the status quo that are quickly undone and the obligatory deaths that are always undone if it's a character anyone cares about and that's all Marvel events.
 
But DC on the other hand, if you read something like Final Crisis, (as long as you read the tie-ins too) comes togethers like a symphony.
 
Speaking of tie-ins, that's another thing. Blackest Night had nine core issues and a total of 82 related comics. (Of these you could be satisfied with the nine Blackest Night, ten Green Lantern and nine Green Lantern corps issues, the rest just add details, though the 18 Black Lantern Corps issues were pretty handy.)
 
So that's still a lot of comics, far too many for anyone to buy.
 
But Fear itself, had 186 issues. Seven core issues, 179 tie-ins. Now the problem with this is not just that it is absolutely unreasonable to expect anyone to get their hands on 186 comics (it shouldn't be a life's work to follow an event) but that Fear Itself despite having 100 issues more than Blackest Night, told much less of a story and had much less impact. It was just pants from an editorial perspective. Also if you got the core books of Blackest Night you would be OK- the core books of Fear Itself simply didn't tell the story, you HAD to get tie-ins. But which ones, there's 179 of them! A lot of people just despaired and walked away and they were right because Fear Itself turned out be a turkey. (However, the post Fear Itself title, The Fearless was much better than the main event).
 
Oh and don't get me even started on how Spiderman has been handled in the past few years.
 
And I don't think we have enough monthly Avengers titles.
 
So it's Marvel still but with a sour taste in my mouth. A few more episodes like that and I could be a DC fan after all.



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 17:48
I collected Sad Sack and Richie Rich as a kid.  That makes me a Harvey guy.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 17:48
DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 18:01
Marvel Comics. X-Men are just that awesome. Here's my favorite..



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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 18:02
Marvel, easily.

Batman may be the only DC hero I love.


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 18:16
Why choose? Amalgam Comics!


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 18:18
Mad Magazine!

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 18:36
I like Batman more than any Marvel Comics superhero. But I don't like much else from D.C. so I guess Marvel.

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 19:12
I really like The Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman: Year One, everything from Sin City, and possibly half of Dark Knight Returns. I really hate superheroes. I used to dig Spawn before I grew up.

What the hell does that make me? I could never financially handle collecting comic books, so I've been content with using CDisplay and lots of images. It hurts my heart to recall that I once parted with 8 USD for a copy of Moore's The Killing Joke. I could never see myself paying more than a quarter for any single comic issue at this point. 

I'd really like to get into the Sandman series because of the things I've heard, but I'm not ever going to pay hundreds of dollars for a handful of graphic novels. The local stores don't have it and the nearest store that does is charging 20 dollars per graphic novel or more. 


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 19:18
Whoever has Hand Ninja in its arsenel.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 21:33
I'm not really a big comic book reader but I watch the movies when they come out. I've read a fair amount graphic novels though. Overall, I'd say Marvel, but DC has Watchmen and V For Vendetta which I cannot simply dismiss. Both the books and movies were great.

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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 21:37
Anime but between those two I would go with Marvel even though I dont like american comics the X men  , Iron Man and Spiderman cartoon series were great.


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 22:27
DC, though onlymfor Batman and the Joker. 

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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 22:45
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I collected Sad Sack and Richie Rich as a kid.  That makes me a Harvey guy.


No.  That makes you gay.    Confused

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Smile   Tongue   Big smile   LOL

Long time no see.  How ya been???


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 22:52
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Mad Magazine!



This is where I learned the english language.   
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 11 2012 at 22:55
Marvel.


Favorites : Spider-Man/Thor - Loki/Doctor Doom

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 04:46
I love Howard The Duck and Doctor Strange. Have you guys read the original Howard The Duck series? It's really quite progressive, and generally considered just about the most alternative thing either of the big two ever published.
 
Over at DC though, they did have the Ambush Bug comics. Almost as funny as Howard The Duck, but HTD had more of a philosophical point.


Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 21:34

Man you know way more than I about comics... But I have to go with Marvel. I don't know about the last 20 years but before that DC villains were pretty lame. Dr octopus... come on.



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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 00:17
Flyingsod: I could be wrong but I wouldn't faint if I'm the most knowledgeable person on this forum when it comes to comics. I can be pretty scary about them.
 
The other thing is that Marvel has the lion's share of the classic pencillers. Gene Colan, John Buscema, Jack Kirby, John Romita, Bill Sienkiewicz*, Charles Vess and more.
 
However, today DC has Doug Mahnke whose stuff I really dig.
 
 
*You know you're talking to the elite/hardcore when they can spell Sienkiewicz.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 01:13
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I collected Sad Sack and Richie Rich as a kid.  That makes me a Harvey guy.


No.  That makes you gay.    Confused

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Smile   Tongue   Big smile   LOL

Long time no see.  How ya been???

Wouldn't Archie be worst? Confused

Iván


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 07:09
I have never met an Archie fan, yet they keep producing the damn thing decade after decade. I suspect it's a front for money laundering.
 
I once wrote a mock article about how comic fans across the land were incredibly shocked to learnt that Archie had still not been canceled.
 
Once it became clear that a threesome between Archie, Betty and Veronica was never gonna happen, it lost its appeal.


Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 14:32
I have a collection of Superman paraphernalia...but I actually prefer Marvel comic books. Go figure.

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 14:55
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.


ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:39
I read a few issues of Y: The Last Man - not really my thing. I don't care for the art style or the dialogue. Would've been an interesting concept in the hands of a guy like Jose Saramago, but the three issues I read didn't catch me in the slightest. 


Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:29
DC for me.  I just like the universe and storytelling aesthetic better than Marvel; it's generally less cynical and more fantastic, and I usually prefer fantasy over realism.  Also, Kingdom Come (my all-time favorite graphic novel) is a DC book, so there you go.
 
Marvel absolutley demolishes DC in the movie department, though, even what with Nolan reviving the Bat-franchise.  The Avengers was just freaking amazing.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:34
I wouldn't be surprised if DC are working on copying Marvel and producing the movies themselves.
 
Some people think including Vertigo is "cheating" as Marvel doesn't have an equivalent, but Fables on Vertigo is almost certainly the best comic currently being produced.


Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:38
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if DC are working on copying Marvel and producing the movies themselves.
 
 
I've actually heard rumors that the upcoming Flash and Superman movies are going to lead into a Justice League film in 2015 or so, like Marvel did with the Avengers franchise.  It's still just a rumor, though, and if they did do that they'd have to reboot Batman again. Disapprove


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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:50
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.


ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

Yeah, that's why Marvel keeps making millions on their movies and the DC ones (except for Batman) are all flops....
Wink


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:17
Does anybody remember Devilman? It was a black-and-white series about a superhero who behaved a lot like Batman (like swinging from house to house on a rope).. But he had one handicap: He was blind. My brother used to read that series.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:19
^Sounds like Daredevil. Not hard to remember him. The comic is still going and there was a film.



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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:22
They've already confirmed that Batman will be rebooted after this film. Bale's going and Ledger's death messed up their intentions for the Joker. Starting again will sort things out.
 
What really made me cross was Green Lantern. Green Lantern has fantastic material for a series of movies, but they just screwed it up. The problem wasn't Reynolds- I think he was a good choice actually. The problem was a rotten script and clueless direction.
 
BF: Yes, that is Daredevil and as for "anyone remembering him", he is one of Marvel's most enduring characters and is quite regularly among their most critically acclaimed franchises.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:23
Yes, I just looked it up. The German name for the series was "Devilman - Ein Teufelskerl". "Teufeskerl" is the German word for "Daredevil".

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:27
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.


ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

Yeah, that's why Marvel keeps making millions on their movies and the DC ones (except for Batman) are all flops....
Wink

Didn't kniow we were talking about the films.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:32
If we do throw in Vertigo, things start to look pretty grim for Marvel. What a list of classics:

Hellblazer
Swamp Thing
Sweet Tooth
Sandman
The Unwritten
Fables
Jack Of Fables
The Invisibles
The Exterminators
Doom Patrol
Lucifer
Preacher
Transmetropolitan
Y The Last Man
Scalped
Sandman Mystery Theatre
Shade The Changing Man
The Dreaming
American Vampire
The Losers
 
And there's others still (like DMZ and Northlanders which I didn't forget, I don't like them, but I know other people do.)


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 17:39
BF: Daredevil was actually kind of crappy originally- it was one of two titles (the other being X-Men) that had run for years and were nearing cancellation. Some new staffers at Marvel wanted a place to stretch their muscles and Marvel figured that because Daredevil and X-Men weren't selling well anyway, there was nothing to lose. Frank Miller was given Daredevil, Chris Claremont given X-Men and both were virtually free of editorial mandate as there wasn't much of a sales base to worry about preserving. Virtually overnight, X-Men became Marvel's biggest seller and Daredevil its biggest critical hit as the books were completely reinvented, breaking away from the once-refreshing-but-now-stale "Marvel Method" of Stan Lee.
 
Frank Miller's Daredevil run (Vol 1 158-191) is necessary reading for anyone who wants to understand the recent evolution of comics and is still considered one of the highpoints of superhero tales. But the character has remained critically respected with a run of writers (Kevin Smith, Brian Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Andy Diggle) that have kept the comic worthwhile. (OK so Shadowland was a bit pants but it was no Fear Itself.)


Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 05:41
DC for comics. Marvel for movies.


Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 05:52
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

If we do throw in Vertigo, things start to look pretty grim for Marvel. What a list of classics:

Hellblazer
Sandman
The Exterminators
Preacher
Transmetropolitan
Y The Last Man
 
So good, all of these. I'd also add The Boys to the list.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:03
Except The Boys isn't Vertigo.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:11
I must admit I never was much of a comic book reader. But I do love the Canardo series of Benoit Sokal. Here the front page of  the first book of the Canardo series::

http://bd.casterman.com/docs/Albums/4584/9782203335035.jpg


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:33
Could it be more European?


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:34
Is still read 2000AD

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:55
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Could it be more European?

Well, I do live in Europe, so what do you expect? There are a lot of excellent Eurpean comics.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 06:58
I haven't read 2000AD for ages - aside from the obvious Judges, characters like Sinister Dexter, Nemesis/Torquemada, Strontium Dog, Durham Red, Tyranny Rex, Nicolai Dante, Rogue Trooper, etc, were just superb. (Even Bec and Kawl).

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 07:03
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I haven't read 2000AD for ages - aside from the obvious Judges, characters like Sinister Dexter, Nemesis/Torquemada, Strontium Dog, Durham Red, Tyranny Rex, Nicolai Dante, Rogue Trooper, etc, were just superb. (Even Bec and Kawl).


Nicolia Dante is on his final story, he has been through the wringer in previous stories. Durham red is back with Carlos Ezquerra on art duties as is Strontium Dog. In my opinion Sinister/ Dexter hasn't bee good for years where it was once superb. Major events occuring at the moment in Dredd. A huge story arc.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 07:03
Dean: 2000AD was way ahead of Marvel and DC in its prime. Still a decent read, though there is an air of "past glories" to it.
 
PS You forgot Ace Trucking Company.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 07:04
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Could it be more European?

 There are a lot of excellent Eurpean comics.

We know.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 07:18
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I haven't read 2000AD for ages - aside from the obvious Judges, characters like Sinister Dexter, Nemesis/Torquemada, Strontium Dog, Durham Red, Tyranny Rex, Nicolai Dante, Rogue Trooper, etc, were just superb. (Even Bec and Kawl).


Nicolia Dante is on his final story, he has been through the wringer in previous stories. Durham red is back with Carlos Ezquerra on art duties as is Strontium Dog. In my opinion Sinister/ Dexter hasn't bee good for years where it was once superb. Major events occuring at the moment in Dredd. A huge story arc.
...nnnnnggghh ... don't tempt me - 2000AD and the Megazine were costing me a fortune - it seemed like the cover-price increased with every issue ... I can remember when it was 8p a copy, what is it now? £2.00? £4.00 for the Megazine?
 
...Oh, I forgot ABC Warriors and Slaine - they were good too.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 07:33
I reckon they should have stayed black and white. Was nothing wrong with it, was way cheaper.
 
I've got a lot of old Marvel comics in cheap black and white reprints and no kidding, a lot of them look better. Until the 90s, colouring could be pretty suspect, especially something like the Hulk where there were all sorts of crimes against the eye regarding his purple and green colour scheme. In black and white you get nice clean lines and bold inks, makes it so much easier to appreciate the artists skill. Colouring can distract you from the quality of the pencilling.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 08:16
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I haven't read 2000AD for ages - aside from the obvious Judges, characters like Sinister Dexter, Nemesis/Torquemada, Strontium Dog, Durham Red, Tyranny Rex, Nicolai Dante, Rogue Trooper, etc, were just superb. (Even Bec and Kawl).


Nicolia Dante is on his final story, he has been through the wringer in previous stories. Durham red is back with Carlos Ezquerra on art duties as is Strontium Dog. In my opinion Sinister/ Dexter hasn't bee good for years where it was once superb. Major events occuring at the moment in Dredd. A huge story arc.
...nnnnnggghh ... don't tempt me - 2000AD and the Megazine were costing me a fortune - it seemed like the cover-price increased with every issue ... I can remember when it was 8p a copy, what is it now? £2.00? £4.00 for the Megazine?
 
...Oh, I forgot ABC Warriors and Slaine - they were good too.

2000AD is £2.40 I think, not sure about the Megazine as I simply cannot afford both. Both ABC Warriors and Slaine are still going though, as returning stories. depends how busy Pat Mills is I suppose.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 15 2012 at 04:33
Finally saw the Avengers. Damn that was good, one of the best superhero movies ever. Fantastic.
 
AND trailers for Batman 3 and the Spiderman reboot. Both look good- you expect that of Batman though, while Spiderman seems like it might be an improvement on the previous series. (Which isn't saying much if you're talking about Spiderman 3... what a turd that was... going to the premiere of that was just about the most inadvertently terrible birthday gift I ever got.)


Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:24
Marvel for me.

I think my favourite character is Deathlok the Demolisher.  The internal conversations he has with his in-built computer are pure pathos:



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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:40
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

DC is pretty hot at the moment. Marvel a bit lame.


ture

The New 52 is really exciting, Batman has really been refreshed by it.

Yeah, that's why Marvel keeps making millions on their movies and the DC ones (except for Batman) are all flops....
Wink


The movies are terrible though, just because they make money doesn't mean they're good. That and they just find star-studded casts to up the advertising. At least the new Nolan Batman movies aren't like that.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:45
No. The Marvel movies are pretty great,

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:46
I agree with Snow Dog,

I am though probably a lone fan of Blade series,

i have yet to see Avangers, but I have to soon


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:50
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No. The Marvel movies are pretty great,


Eh, whatever. Just not a fan and don't think that money is a good argument of which comic book company is better.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:57
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No. The Marvel movies are pretty great,


Eh, whatever. Just not a fan and don't think that money is a good argument of which comic book company is better.

What do you mean "Eh whatever"? Are you surprised? I don't get it. I  have made no argument about money either. don't know what you're getting at.


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 15:59
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No. The Marvel movies are pretty great,


Eh, whatever. Just not a fan and don't think that money is a good argument of which comic book company is better.

What do you mean "Eh whatever"? Are you surprised? I don't get it. I  have made no argument about money either. don't know what you're getting at.


No, I wasn't making the money argument with you more at dtguitarfan or whatever.

Eh whatever was directed at you because I don't enjoy the films but you can have your own opinion. Tongue


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 16:01
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No. The Marvel movies are pretty great,


Eh, whatever. Just not a fan and don't think that money is a good argument of which comic book company is better.

What do you mean "Eh whatever"? Are you surprised? I don't get it. I  have made no argument about money either. don't know what you're getting at.


No, I wasn't making the money argument with you more at dtguitarfan or whatever.

Eh whatever was directed at you because I don't enjoy the films but you can have your own opinion. Tongue

Quite. I doubt we have similar tastes at all.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 18:08
Any Blade fans need to read the original Tomb Of Dracula series he originally appeared in. Surprisingly well-written and features some of Gene Colan's best work.


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 18:16
I've always been a big Marvel fan, back from the day of the Dark Phoenix Saga and Tony Stark's battle with alcoholism.  Growing up anyway, the DC were less complicated and much less adult than the Marvels.  Not sure about today though.  And it's not that I don't enjoy the occasional DC comics, I just found Marvel to be superior.  

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 19 2012 at 18:28
Well it all depends on whether you count Vertigo. If you do, DC is easily more adult than Marvel. Take away Vertigo and it's probably pretty even. DC might still have the edge there, but I still prefer Marvel's stable of characters.


Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 19:21
Always loved Marvel's universe of characters more, with two exceptions...

Teen Titans (better than Marvel's X-Men)
Swamp Thing (better than Marvel's Man-Thing)


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 22 2012 at 03:40
Mmmmhhh!!!...
 
While I spent my youth in Canada, I did more or less read some US comics, but my European heritage made that I concentrated on Belgo-French commics... Soo i kind of never looked at the editors.
 
I've known the CD and Marvel names for years, but I can't really see who publishes what heroes/series
 
Could anyone list of few of the main ones (not just the old classics, but the new "best sellers") per publishing house? ThanksWink
 
 
 
Strangely enough, I got into North American comics authors in the 90's, once I crossed back the pond? Seth, Robinson, Chester Brown, Rabagliatti, Beaulieu... but most of these guys are loners, auto-didacts and autobiograhical. They're just not representative iof the US comics of today and yesteryears
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 02:54
DC, simply because they have the greatest comic book hero of all time, Batman.  

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 03:06
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Could anyone list of few of the main ones (not just the old classics, but the new "best sellers") per publishing house? ThanksWink
generally speaking Hugues, DC has the characters one may think of as 'archetypal' ; Supes, Batman, Wonderwoman, Flash, the Spectre.    Marvel tends toward a more modern approach with Spiderman, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Ironman, etc.     As for new bestsellers, DC had Watchmen and The Sandman, and some were independently published like Grendel or Cerebus .




Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 03:43
Can't believe I've never voted in this before, as I've collected comics for over twenty years now (still going too...)!

I voted Marvel, probably because The Punisher is my all-time favourite character.

Even though I prefer the Marvel comic books and characters, these days I seem to collect more DC titles. Batman's current run under Scott Snyder has been killer! Check it out!

I should add, I also love the American newspaper strip character The Phantom, which was a large following here in Australia! We've kind of adopted him as one of our own!   


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 04:15
 ^ well he is an outback character--  does he still leave a skull mark from his ring when he punches someone?



Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 04:28
Yep, still leaves the mark! Although there seems to be some confusion over HOW he actually does that, especially considering the comic has run for almost 80 years now!!! It's been mentioned that it's either through sheer force of his punch that it imprints on the skin permanently, or maybe that the ring leaves a permanent `stamp' on the skin due to the juice of an ancient berry in his homeland lol! :)

Interesting, I just looked it up and came across this on Wikipedia:

"MythBusters "Superhero Hour"

On MythBusters season 5, episode 17 "Superhero Hour", it was tested whether the Phantom's skull ring would make an imprint on someone when you punch them while wearing it, as it does in the comic. The result was the myth was "busted", in that hitting a person in the face hard enough to leave a ring imprint on the skin requires more than enough force to crush a human skull.

In the comic, it has been revealed that the Phantom's ring actually has sharp edges and is covered with a permanent ink synthesized from plants found in the depths of the Bengallan jungle, leaving a permanent scar-like mark. It is, in effect, an instant tattoo."

So there you go!


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 19:05
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

In the comic, it has been revealed that the Phantom's ring actually has sharp edges and is covered with a permanent ink synthesized from plants found in the depths of the Bengallan jungle, leaving a permanent scar-like mark. It is, in effect, an instant tattoo."

So there you go!
neat--   good solution




Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 20:05
Taskmaster proves how awesome Marvel is. 

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 20:24
Taskmaster's the guy from some of the Moon Knight comics, right? I don't know too much else about him other than his appearance in that series from a few years back!

Is there a particular run of stories/series that you'd recommend to someone for this character?


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 21:27
Haven't read comics in ages (literally), but back when I did it was Thor, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Captain America and Spiderman, so Marvel all the way. Great antagonists like the Red Skull, Dr. Doom and Loki.

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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 22:05
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Taskmaster's the guy from some of the Moon Knight comics, right? I don't know too much else about him other than his appearance in that series from a few years back!

Is there a particular run of stories/series that you'd recommend to someone for this character?

The Taskmaster appeared in his own limited series Taskmaster vol.1 #1-4 (2002)

Best short-series ever.



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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 22:06
He's on some different comics here and there. The Avengers and such. He's buddies/enemies with Deadpool

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 22:41
Thanks, Raccoon, I looked him up on Wikipedia for a crash course in his history, and noticed he seems to have a lot of history with the Avengers, as you've mentioned!

Awesome gear on him in the pic you supplied, I'll have to look into that series. There's a few shops around my way that have tons of back issue comics they can't seem to move at all, so I may dig through there for it!

Thanks!


Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 23:18
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Thanks, Raccoon, I looked him up on Wikipedia for a crash course in his history, and noticed he seems to have a lot of history with the Avengers, as you've mentioned!

Awesome gear on him in the pic you supplied, I'll have to look into that series. There's a few shops around my way that have tons of back issue comics they can't seem to move at all, so I may dig through there for it!

Thanks!

Honestly, no problem! Glad you're interested!! I just needed to share my favorite mini-series. Through the comics, heroes try to take him down so he's fighting Iron Man and such, I just think that's awesome.

Oh, unrelated, but great reviews for your prog albums!! I remember seeing your name in the thread "Great Reviewers" or something like that. Always interesting to see your take on such popular albums since they're usually similar to my opinion!


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 01 2012 at 23:43
Hey Raccoon, no problem about the comics, I'm always pretty easy-going with most stories, there's really very few where I've thought `What are load of crap!' and thrown it down in disgust! Most of the time I'm pretty easy to entertain lol!

Don't know if you would know the two `Angel Punisher' 2 miniseries from the late 90's or early 00's, where the title character had the supernatural weapons?! THAT's about the closest I've come to getting REALLY angry!

Fortunately I have a very easy-going partner who's happy to put up with my continued comic collecting and prog music obsessions!

Oh, cheers for your kind words, yes, a few of the others on here posted some kind words about my reviews, and I find it very humbling! I love everyones opinion on the Archives, I get a real kick out of the wildly different opinions on albums/artists from everyone!


Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: October 02 2012 at 12:34
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Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: October 07 2012 at 09:42
Marvel, for Deadpool, and the fact that they can resist the urge to destroy their univers during every event, unlike DC

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 07 2012 at 18:47
Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

Marvel, for Deadpool, and the fact that they can resist the urge to destroy their univers during every event, unlike DC



I can't STAND all the multi-universe/multi-earth garbage in DC comics - and that's coming from someone who collects a stack of their titles. I especially don't like it when those sci-fi/supernatural elements cross over into the Batman related titles, which work FAR better when they're grounded in hard crime/action.

No end of it in sight, either...!



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