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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2012 at 13:55
Well, Scotty didn't even think of it as a punishment. Who started that fight?  At least Scotty finished it.I also liked the episode By Any Other Name where Scotty gets the Kelvin alien gunned out of his head with that old bottle of scotch. 
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^That reminds me of the line by Scotty-"Why, thank ya, Captain, it'll give me a chance to get back to my Technical Journals."LOL
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2012 at 12:10
If you want to know how much of a star trek geek I am, I have the Technical Manual.  :)  Apparently not worth too much though.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2012 at 10:38
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Sets are very good overall
The sets are reconstructed from the original production blueprints.
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Look at Steve kicking Einstein' s ass and Newto'ns ass Data is just confused as f**k.





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^^ Of Gods and Men was really cool.  Put together by the same people responsible for Phase II (the fan production).  Haven't seen the third one on your list .  Will have to check into that.
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Points: 65616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2012 at 00:04
 ^ I don't think even LotR fans would have the balls to do that
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 23:32
Just watched some awesome fan films...

Worth a look

This one features Original cast members from TOS, TNG and Voyager - its the best...


this one is as good as it gets for TOS - the sets are brilliant


and a decent series here:



they are all worthwhile but acting is below par at times and FX very cartoonish. Sets are very good overall
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 21:15
Eh if it looks good it looks good.

problem is, I can't think of once instance where it looks good.

Maybe like one or two of the explosions in Star Wars, but then Lucas f**ked it all up.
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It's also disrespectful to the original effects artists. The guy who toiled to create that model spaceship and make it look as good as he could. "Sorry, guy, your work may have entertained thousands of people back in the sixties, but it's not good enough for us now. Into the scrap heap it goes."
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I loathe the revisionism of art, literature, whatever.  Whether is it scrubbing old books/films for "modern sensitivities", removing cigs from old photos, or messing with Trek's cool 60s look, it is just offensive.  Leave it alone.  AngryLOL
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 21:03
I hope they never try to "improve" Ray Harryhausen's effects with CGI.




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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?




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Points: 8743 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 20:23
I have TOS the way it intitially was-i like it that way.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?


It would not be so annoying if the remastered FX were an alternative! But they are not! There is no alternative with the new box sets but to see the show with all the CG!, and that includes any laser effects from phasers and other things too I noticed. I know on YT many fans have put on their own new FX and they look good but of course thats just fans having fun with a series they love, now Paramount are making it impossible to relive the good old 60s with all the clunky FX.


Fan based New Fx are here a nd very good too!:
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Points: 65616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:56
 ^ that's a nice little sampler though I must say it looks far better on TV, on youtube it looks a little like Japanese animated pornography LOL
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:42
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ probably the reason people aren't complaining as much is because what Lucas did to SW is nothing like what they did to Trek, which was to simply give a very careful and tasteful update, 'facelift' if you will, to an old show that deserved it (as ACR points out, it gives the show a somewhat 'modern' quality that is subtle but there) ;  Lucas didn't just update a few key scenes, he forever altered an entire saga often with material and visuals that defy any sense of taste or even sanity.


Lucas certainly made sure people would forget the old saga and embrace this new enhanced version with all the CGI and that is rather a kick in the bum for all te old fans who grew up with it like me. i am glad at least the old versions were released before they fade to obscurity.

In Treks case it is a simple facelift as you state, but I still long to see how it looked in the 60s and there is no way unless one buys 2 box sets. Even the Blu Ray could have added the old versions of effects but it seems once again that inorder to gain a new generation of fans we have to resort to CGI. Give e a good old clunky scene with real models anyday. However that said I still really enjoy returning to these old series and seeing brand new upgraded FX. A Youtuber dedicated a clip to them too
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Points: 65616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:16
^ probably the reason people aren't complaining as much is because what Lucas did to SW is nothing like what they did to Trek, which was to simply give a very careful and tasteful update, 'facelift' if you will, to an old show that deserved it (as ACR points out, it gives the show a somewhat 'modern' quality that is subtle but there) ;  Lucas didn't just update a few key scenes, he forever altered an entire saga often with material and visuals that defy any sense of taste or even sanity.
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^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 18:49
Here's my all time greatest top 30 Trek using all the series... it was not easy but I think this is a good selection of the best of the best.
Not in numerical order but in series order... (I got all the pics from the BEST website here http://tos.trekcore.com/episodes/

ALL TIME GREATEST STAR TREK TOP 30

ORIGINAL STAR TREK

THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES

The Trouble With Tribbles

AMOK TIME

Amok Time

MIRROR MIRROR

Mirror, Mirror

THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER

 The City on the Edge of Forever

STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION

Q-WHO

Q Who

THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS PART 1

The Best of Both Worlds, Part I

THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS PART 2

The Best of Both Worlds, Part II

YESTERDAY’S ENTERPRISE

Yesterdays Enterprise

FUTURE IMPERFECT

Future Imperfect

TAPESTRY

Tapestry

ALL GOOD THINGS

All Good Things... 

STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE 9

TRIALS AND TRIBBLE-ATIONS

Trials and Tribble-ations

EMPOK NOR

Empok Nor

CALL TO ARMS

Call to Arms

A TIME TO STAND

A Time to Stand

FAVOR THE BOLD

Favor the Bold

SACRIFICE OF ANGELS

Sacrifice of Angels

WHAT YOU LEAVE BEHIND

What You Leave Behind

 

STAR TREK: VOYAGER

SCORPION 1

Scorpion, Part I

SCORPION 2

Scorpion, Part II

YEAR OF HELL 1

Year of Hell, Part I

YEAR OF HELL 2

Year of Hell, Part II

DARK FRONTIER 1

Dark Frontier, Part I

DARK FRONTIER 2

Dark Frontier, Part II

RELATIVITY

Relativity

ENDGAME

Endgame

 

 

ENTERPRISE

REGENERATION

Regeneration

IN A MIRROR DARKLY 1

In a Mirror, Darkly, Part I

IN A MIRROR DARKLY 1

In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II

THESE ARE THE VOYAGES…

These Are The Voyages...



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