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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 07:20
Originally posted by barbs barbs wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

I am very dissapointed that some of you advocate drug use...especially with prog.

I have enjoyed this website becouse It seemed to me that everyone on this website are responsible and educated people(and many are im sure) who do not need drugs to enjoy there music. It is a shame that some of you advocate drug use bieng full grown adults and forget that alot of people on this website are young and gullable. We need to be rolemodels. Prog is about music not drugs.

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A preacher that doesn't preach is like a fireman that doesn't put out fires or a cow that does not give milk.

Ok,then.Let him preach elsewhere.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 07:16
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Originally posted by Poxx Poxx wrote:

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

It is also supposed to be an aphrodisiac due to  two particular substances, Phenylethylamin and Serotonin, both of which serve as anti-depressants.

Although serotonin is released in the brain when consuming food and particular drugs, there is no actual serotonin in chocolate. Serotonin doesn't really "serve as an anti-depressant', it's rather one of the key chemicals that controls our mood. But the thing is, if you have low levels of serotonin you become depressed. Anti-depressants (SSRI's) increases the serotonin levels in the brain indirectly, in the same way that amphetamines increases the levels of dopamine in the brain.

what would have more accurate for me to have said is that chocolate contains tryptophan which increases serotonin levels in the brain ...

Yep, and it may seem like nitpicking from the perspective of the untrained eye, but it's not. It would be the same principle as if you were suggesting that oxygen contains haemoglobin.

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Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Yes, but watching TV several hours a day is a very common -but harmful- addiction.

so is CD buying ... a shameful addiction ... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 07:03
Yes, but watching TV several hours a day is a very common -but harmful- addiction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 07:01
Originally posted by Poxx Poxx wrote:

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

It is also supposed to be an aphrodisiac due to  two particular substances, Phenylethylamin and Serotonin, both of which serve as anti-depressants.

Although serotonin is released in the brain when consuming food and particular drugs, there is no actual serotonin in chocolate. Serotonin doesn't really "serve as an anti-depressant', it's rather one of the key chemicals that controls our mood. But the thing is, if you have low levels of serotonin you become depressed. Anti-depressants (SSRI's) increases the serotonin levels in the brain indirectly, in the same way that amphetamines increases the levels of dopamine in the brain.

what would have more accurate for me to have said is that chocolate contains tryptophan which increases serotonin levels in the brain ...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:43
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

I personally rely not on drugs (be they legal or otherwise - I'm teetotal), nor God to augment my life. For me, as long as I can I write, listen to music, and spend time with the people I love I'm set. Certif1ed, I have to say that your post about your family, house, car, etc was dreadfully smug and materialistic. Is that really how you equate your success - on what you own?

No coffee or tea? How about cocoa? These are all drugs.

Anything that can be imbibed is a drug. But some things have to be taken in really huge quantities to have any psychotropic effect. If you ate 20 pounds of potatoes I am quite sure it would mentally affect you.



Isn't there some difference in visiting a friend or aquaintance and accepting or not their offer of 'would you like some tea or would you prefer heroin instead.'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:34

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

I personally rely not on drugs (be they legal or otherwise - I'm teetotal), nor God to augment my life. For me, as long as I can I write, listen to music, and spend time with the people I love I'm set. Certif1ed, I have to say that your post about your family, house, car, etc was dreadfully smug and materialistic. Is that really how you equate your success - on what you own?

No coffee or tea? How about cocoa? These are all drugs.

Anything that can be imbibed is a drug. But some things have to be taken in really huge quantities to have any psychotropic effect. If you ate 20 pounds of potatoes I am quite sure it would mentally affect you.



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Arthur C Clarke said that 'the only genuine consciousness-expanding drug is science fiction.'
I wouldn't agree with that either but in a way it accentuates what happens in the streams on drugs.

In a postmodern, poststructuralist world, truth itself is considered a subjective experience, and Frank Zappa's take on drugs becomes the creed for those who want to take them with a happy conscionsce.  "A drug is neither moral or immoral - its a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary licence to act like an asshole."  (F. Z.)

We are polarised on this and in the end we have to 'live and let live.'


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:28
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

We all use cannabis - in fact, we all produce it naturally.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4119346.stm

That can't really be considered a valid argument pro cannabis. We also produce morphine-like chemicals in the brain, it doesn't mean that we should all chew on a chunk of opium every odd 15 minutes.

We also produce fat - don't drink a grease tank.

Of course cannabis should be legal, it doesn't take half a pizza for a brain to figure that out. But it does take two large with extra cheese of ignorance to deny it's harmlessness.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:27

Better not try drugs to Heresy by Universe Zero

And even better don't try them at all...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:23
What exactly is the point in this argument?

Doing drugs is a choice...Yes or no, Some people choose yes. Calm down, These things happen...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:13
Originally posted by barbs barbs wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

I am very dissapointed that some of you advocate drug use...especially with prog.

I have enjoyed this website becouse It seemed to me that everyone on this website are responsible and educated people(and many are im sure) who do not need drugs to enjoy there music. It is a shame that some of you advocate drug use bieng full grown adults and forget that alot of people on this website are young and gullable. We need to be rolemodels. Prog is about music not drugs.

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There is only room for one preacher on this forum..............and he doesnt preach to us!

How dare you be so patronising.Angry

 


 
A preacher that doesn't preach is like a fireman that doesn't put out fires or a cow that does not give milk.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:12
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

The words loser and winners are used by contemporary society to judge men by there accomplishments(status , money , etc), they do not determine a persons true worth. We are all created equal...
You don't need to believe in these notions... Good and bad, false and truth are only humans interpretations, mental creations
 


 a persons interpitation of what is good and bad /false and true is an abstraction of the mind however there is a truth and a good and evil(bad) that is above the humane mind.



Evil and truth ARE human notions!

Man is naturally  evil....and there is an objective truth

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:08
Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

The words loser and winners are used by contemporary society to judge men by there accomplishments(status , money , etc), they do not determine a persons true worth. We are all created equal...
You don't need to believe in these notions... Good and bad, false and truth are only humans interpretations, mental creations
 


 a persons interpitation of what is good and bad /false and true is an abstraction of the mind however there is a truth and a good and evil(bad) that is above the humane mind.



Evil and truth ARE human notions!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:06

We all use cannabis - in fact, we all produce it naturally.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4119346.stm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:48
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

I am very dissapointed that some of you advocate drug use...especially with prog.

I have enjoyed this website becouse It seemed to me that everyone on this website are responsible and educated people(and many are im sure) who do not need drugs to enjoy there music. It is a shame that some of you advocate drug use bieng full grown adults and forget that alot of people on this website are young and gullable. We need to be rolemodels. Prog is about music not drugs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:47

dont do drugs

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:46
I personally rely not on drugs (be they legal or otherwise - I'm teetotal), nor God to augment my life. For me, as long as I can I write, listen to music, and spend time with the people I love I'm set. Certif1ed, I have to say that your post about your family, house, car, etc was dreadfully smug and materialistic. Is that really how you equate your success - on what you own?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:46
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

It is also supposed to be an aphrodisiac due to  two particular substances, Phenylethylamin and Serotonin, both of which serve as anti-depressants.

Although serotonin is released in the brain when consuming food and particular drugs, there is no actual serotonin in chocolate. Serotonin doesn't really "serve as an anti-depressant', it's rather one of the key chemicals that controls our mood. But the thing is, if you have low levels of serotonin you become depressed. Anti-depressants (SSRI's) increases the serotonin levels in the brain indirectly, in the same way that amphetamines increases the levels of dopamine in the brain.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2005 at 05:44

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by JesusBetancourt JesusBetancourt wrote:

The words loser and winners are used by contemporary society to judge men by there accomplishments(status , money , etc), they do not determine a persons true worth. We are all created equal...


You don't need to believe in these notions...

Good and bad, false and truth are only humans interpretations, mental creations
 

 a persons interpitation of what is good and bad /false and true is an abstraction of the mind however there is a truth and a good and evil(bad) that is above the humane mind.

"He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water"
              John 7:38
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