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Stooge 
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Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
 Posted: April 26 2011 at 16:32 |
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I haven't watched The Daily Show in years, and I never payed Glenn Beck any attention. No vote.
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thellama73
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 13:51 |
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Definitely Glenn Beck. I have problems with him a lot, but he provides a much needed service of awakening people to the ways in which their freedoms are taken away. In many ways, I think Jon Stewart has become irrelevant.
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 13:45 |
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crimhead
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VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 13:15 |
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They'd still have Hannity,and Rush to fact check. |
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Padraic
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Posted: April 26 2011 at 09:00 |
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But then Media Matters would be out of business. |
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Negoba
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Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 08:26 |
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I really really want Beck's 15 minutes to be over.
All I know of Stewart are youtube clips people send me. They're funny, but I wonder how much boring crap you have to wade through to get some funny stuff.
I'm boring...when I want LOLs I'll put on What About Bob or Tropic Thunder. Politics makes me cry.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Evolver
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Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5482 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 06:26 |
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You are being completely unfair to bananas.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 01:04 |
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 well said.
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:57 |
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T, you are putting more thought into my posts than I am.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:53 |
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HP, I didn't say Stewart is a fascist (though his love of big government is worrisome), I said YOU are a fascist
 . Sometimes you appear on the conservative side, sometimes you have socialist tendencies, but always your view seems to be that whatever is chosen has to be the only way, any decision has to be driven down people's throats, by force, totally absolutist. Left or right wing, fascism is the name.
And the fact that most people disagree with one's views doesn't make one wrong or the rest right. Tsk tsk where's the logic? In fact, I'd say most of the time less people are going to be right than wrong. Also, i'd say the US being so screwed as it is of late has a lot to do with the majority being dead wrong for a LONG time. Beck of course ruins the truths he sometimes says with his neo-con beliefs and his religiousness. He's also somewhat fascist behind that cover of liberty he tries go portray. |
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:33 |
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On the rare occasions I tune in, I can't stand it when he makes a joke about how bad the joke he just told was. You have a dozen writers, STOP IT! The primary failing of both TDS and CR as comedy shows is that, because of the time constraints, much of the shows are a limited number of jokes they cycle through and apply to the current situation. This quickly becomes tedious, and I don't know how people can stand to watch the shows every day for years now and still laugh. Also, the crowd not shutting up for the first minute of each episode is the most annoying thing ever.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:26 |
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Glenn Beck is a preacher. That's what he is at the core. He's not an informer, and he's not reasonable. He's driven by religious, irrational patriotism and neo-con zeal. He is the biggest drama queen on television/radio. He is the Nancy Grace of whatever he does.
Jon Stewert, well. He's self-deprecating enough for me to like him, but the clash between everyone in his target audience and himself being liberal and actually trying not to be liberal makes his show naught but comedy. He's nothing even close to serious. I suppose that doesn't need clarification. |
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:06 |
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I am curious what views of Jon you would consider fascist. I don't pretend I have an internally consistent ideology. :P However, as for your and mom's complaints that Jon lies while Glenn is sometimes right, I would say that your perception of reality is much different from most people's. ;-)
He's been more on the offensive against Fox and the Republicans lately, partly because of his liberal ideology and partly because they're easier targets, but most of the time, especially when he gets all serious, he tries to paint both sides as more or less equally stupid and what we need to do to move the country forward is to ignore all these crazy extremists on both sides and come an agreement that 80% of America would agree to, but they don't have the chance because the other 20% is so much louder and more motivated that they drown out all rational discourse. I don't know what else you would call that. Wikipedia tells me that centrism has some conations that I was not aware of, so if you would like to replace that with the word moderate that is fine with me.
F*CK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME Edited by Henry Plainview - April 26 2011 at 00:25 |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: April 26 2011 at 00:03 |
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If his shtick can appear relentlessly centrist to anyone than the country has a larger perception (or stupidy) problem than I thought.
Also, didn't I tell you to go to your room, young man?
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 Time always wins. |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: April 25 2011 at 23:56 |
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HP, you baffle me. You are a mix of a right-wing fascist and a left-wing... fascist. So actually you're quite coherent
Beck is less funny than Stewart. Beck is not a comedian. Stewart is. But Beck sometimes says truths, while Stewart rarely does. |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: April 25 2011 at 23:34 |
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I think Jon cares more about the truth than Glenn. Usually when he's distorting the truth somewhat it's so he can continue to appear relentlessly centrist rather than for comedy purposes. Also, just because you do not find something funny does not mean it is not presented in a comedic fashion. ;-)
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:54 |
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fixed that for you
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Time always wins. |
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The Monodrone
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Joined: March 21 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 4489 |
Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:49 |
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lol Stewart tells the truth in a comedic fashion. Beck tells lies in a comedic fashion.
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The T
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Posted: April 25 2011 at 22:29 |
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The Truth
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Posted: April 25 2011 at 21:09 |
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They're both nuts in their own way, this poll should be moved to JFF.
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