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~Rael~
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 22:12 |
PR does. For the four-and-five star rating, just take out "progressive" and "prog," respectively. Same with proto-prog.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 22:11 |
As for the original poster: Yeah...I agree with you. Sadly people don't always rate according to the rules. I've done this myself, so I'm allowed to throw stones according to the gods of aphorisms. Hate to sound like an ass but its always better to go on the reviews. A good reviewer should specify why hes giving the rating and if its more prog or more jazz or more whatever. I haven't read the reviews for this particular album so I can't comment on that, I'm just saying in general.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 22:07 |
stonebeard wrote:
~Rael~ wrote:
but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. |
That is a completely terrible way to review albums on this site now, especially given what is is crossover and prog-related.
A lot of stuff is progressive; a lot of progressive stuff is terrible.
I'm dumbfounded that rating criteria hasn't been changed if it hasn't.
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Which is why you rate that sh*t low. 
Though, as far as I know PR has a different criteria list.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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~Rael~
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 21:54 |
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Padraic wrote:
3.59 seems about right for "good, but nothing special". I don't think people rate using the same criteria as yourself, viz. "progressiveness". |
I don't know, looking at ratings, a 3.59 is pretty good. 4 ratings don't seem to be common, and 4.2 and above ratings are reserved for the best of the best. Hell, none of The Flower Kings' albums even have a 4.
stonebeard wrote:
~Rael~ wrote:
but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. |
That is a completely terrible way to review albums on this site now, especially given what is is crossover and prog-related.
A lot of stuff is progressive; a lot of progressive stuff is terrible.
I'm dumbfounded that rating criteria hasn't been changed if it hasn't.
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Well, the rating criteria is listed as follows:
5 stars: Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music 4 stars: Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection 3 stars: Good, but non-essential 2 stars: Collectors/fans only 1 star: Poor. Only for completionists < ="utf-8">< ="utf-8">< ="utf-8">< ="utf-8">< ="utf-8">
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 21:48 |
~Rael~ wrote:
but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. |
That is a completely terrible way to review albums on this site now, especially given what is is crossover and prog-related. A lot of stuff is progressive; a lot of progressive stuff is terrible. I'm dumbfounded that rating criteria hasn't been changed if it hasn't.
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Padraic
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 21:47 |
3.59 seems about right for "good, but nothing special". I don't think people rate using the same criteria as yourself, viz. "progressiveness".
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~Rael~
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 21:45 |
Hello, all. Looong time since I've posted here. It took Pain of Salvation to bring me back (after all, what other band could?).
So, I have listened to Road Salt One a couple times. I like it, but after reading some of the reviews here, I feel like I'm missing something. I just can't get into it. It's good, but nothing special as far as I can tell. What really boggles my mind is how it has a 3.59 rating. Now, if this was a rating based only on how much one enjoys a piece of music (and I know that does factor in) it wouldn't be a problem, but the rating is supposed to be based on the progressiveness of the work, and I just can't find much prog in RS1. I'll grant it's more progressive than the average shlock pumped out of radios, but that seems about it. It actually sounds like another indie band, and I hate indie.
So, I'm hoping someone can explain to me what I'm missing. PoS is one of my all time favorite bands. Hell, I even like Scarsick. If it was any other band, I would probably like the CD more. But this is PoS, and I really want to like it. So, help me, please. Show me the light.
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