Crossover Prog vs. Neo-Prog - Progressive Rock Music Forum

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Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I believe Crossover shouldn't exist, it is almost another Prog Related.

Iván

Almost, but it isn't. While Prog Related has the caveat of being for bands influenced by and influenced on Progressive Rock there will always be room for a subgenre of Progressive Rock for bands that arrived at a style of music that is recognisable as being Progressive Rock without actually being influenced directly by it.

Neo Prog has its origins firmly within Symphonic Prog - as a style of Prog it is Symphonic Prog with 80s (post-punk) ideology, 80s production and 80s characteristical styling of shorter "poppier" songs and less of the unrestrained instrumental excesses of the 70s symphonic, space-rock and head-music bands - applying those ideals and characteristics to every other "pure Prog" subgenre within the Prog canon we would arrive at a myriad of subsubgenres such as Neo Kraut, Neo Avant, Neo Prog Folk, Neo Electronic, Neo Space/Psyche ... or we can lump them all together within one all encompassing subgenre and call it Crossover.

Moreover, if we go back to the roots of Progressive Rock that formed in the post-Psychedelic era that came after the Summer of Love crumbled to dust there are a core of bands that produce (probably Beatles inspired) Baroque Pop, Art Pop and Progressive Pop that are unique and I would argue impossible to place in any existing "pure Prog" subgenre. These artists would similarly look "wrong" in Prog Related since they are of course The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Barclay James Harvest, ELO, Argent and (perhaps contentiously, but I have argued his case extensively before) Mike Oldfield and Supertramp. Where I believe we have "gone wrong" in Prog Related is in keeping out of Crossover similar Prog Pop bands like Roxy Music & Phil Manzanera (Neo Canterbury x Art Rock), Queen (Neo Symphonic Pomp Rock), 10 c.c. & Godley & Creme (Neo Eclectic) simply because they carry "Glam Rock" baggage.

Edited by Dean - December 03 2010 at 07:24

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Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I believe Crossover shouldn't exist, it is almost another Prog Related.

Iván

There may be a bit of truth in this, but there are some bands and artists in this genre that should be moved to another Prog genre first (Mike Oldfield, Phideaux and Kayak, to mention a few).

I recently reviewed two albums of an artist who is placed in the Crossover Prog genre: the first of these albums might be classified as Prog Related, the last as Eclectic Prog (imho of course).

You'll have to pry these artists out of our cold dead hands. LOL

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Edited by JS19 - December 03 2010 at 04:07

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I believe Crossover shouldn't exist, it is almost another Prog Related.

Iván

Radical truth

The only thing I can add is neo-prog is mostly collection of Genesis clones,boring to death.

Ahh,yes, I am a avant-prog fan (as well as some other non-poppish prog rock)

Pretty much anything > neo prog in my books.

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Neo-Prog, because the cross over zone these days , half of the bands included are not prog at all., so neo by far

Hmmm, this one's tough.

I'll give it to Neo-Prog though.

Poll Question: Which of these sub-genres do you prefer?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Crossover Prog	51	[68.00%]
Neo-Prog	24	[32.00%]
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