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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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More a pamphlet, really... ![]() ![]()
I've been frisked in public several times... by men in uniforms... ![]() Should I sue? |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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I used it the other day and wish I hadn't: "I am an open-book".
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Thanks to that link for "Grope Lane" I now know I have to visit Shrewsbury sometime. I can never resist the image of a lovely anglo-norman house.
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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Dean, "grope" is not inherently offensive or sexual, and I doubt it was so for that street name. (It may well have been a surname.) One can grope (fumble, or reach around blindly) in the dark for a lightswitch, for example.
Many place names in my native Newfoundland now sound funny or sexual, but they were not originally so. Words take on new meanings and useages over the centuries.
These days, grope's association is very often sexual -- much as the hitherto innocent "intercourse" and "ejaculate" came to connote only sexual intercourse and, well, not a sudden conversational interjection..... ![]() Edited by Peter - December 05 2010 at 14:52 |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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I know, I should have specified that it's not the expression in itself that annoys me, but the abuse. I see it a lot in contexts where it's not needed, recently.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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![]() You are France-based, but you are not Frenchian.
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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"Based". You can not say anymore about someone that he's "Californanian", or "from California". You now must say "California-based". That quite annoys me.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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We were not so squemish over the use of "offensive" words in earlier times - my Mother-in-law owns a shop in Shrewsbury on a street called Grope Lane - that is not it's original name (the shopfront with the blue windowframe belongs to my Mother-in-law).
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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![]() Origin:
1425–75; earlier, to move about restlessly, rub; late ME friggen to quiver ***************************************************************************************
"to move about restlessly," mid-15c., perhaps a variant of frisk (q.v.). As a euphemism for "to f**k" it dates from 1590s, later "to masturbate" (1670s).
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(source: Dictionary.com, citing various reputable dictionaries) |
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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![]() frig (taboo) 1. a highly offensive term meaning to have sexual intercourse with somebody 2. a highly offensive term meaning to masturbate, or masturbate somebody [Late 16th C., Origin ?]
The fact that it is first found in print around the late 1500s would seem to negate any original connection to those little glass novelty ornaments -- we had a lot of those in the late 60s-70s, when I think they came out. I never heard or saw the word in connection with them, at least on this side of the Atlantic. For stores/manufacturers to have used it would have been counter-productive, and offensive to many customers. As a sound, "frig" would seem Germanic, to me (like that other F-word). "Frigg" or "Frigga" was a Norse goddess -- the wife of Odin.
Re the "female" genital-digital manipulation connotation, there is a joke/faux sea shanty in my home province which goes "frigging in the rigging, frigging in the rigging -- there's f***-all else to do." That would seem to refer to male sailors, no?
![]() In any case, I agree that through mainstream useage, the word is losing its power to offend. Webster's goes on to define "frigging" as "a highly offensive term expressing annoyance or disgust [taboo]" As with all too many expletives and rude words these days (eg. "douchebag"), it is increasingly heard on radio, TV, in classrooms, workplaces, and at the family dinner table. Any notions of setting-appropriate decorum and "class" seem to be rapidly disappearing -- pity!
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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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Even Dean uses it on occasion +++shakes head in despair+++
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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meh.
old people really have nothing to do if they are complaining about "meh".
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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^^^ You beat me to it, Jim. That expression sets my teeth on edge, especially when Brits use it.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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