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sydbarrett2010 
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 Posted: August 13 2010 at 05:55 |
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its the music that's important its not important what country has better bands what country has more bands im from iran and we have good bands in rock and metal koroush yaghmaei is one of our best rock musicians but can you choose between iran and us or uk ? yes you can but its the music that is important maybe there is just one band in my country but he's good so there is no need to argue about us or uk
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zappadaddy
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:15 |
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No doubt,England rules in the world of PROG in last 40 years,lately though there is band form USA which in my opinion is more progressive then the rest of the world - Deluge Grander and Birds of buildings!
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My heroes are Frank Zappa,Ozzy Osbourne,The Plastic People of the Universe,Sun Ra and Mirek Wanek from Uz jsme doma
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fuxi
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:10 |
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But that's not all!
Why is Missouri spelled Missouri if it's pronounced Mizzoori? (Cf. Mississippi!)
Why isn't Michigan spelled Mishigan? (Cf. Jonnie Anderson's notorious mispronunciation on that superb extended version of "America"...)
And don't get me started on Wichita; how many foreigners would pronounce THAT correctly if they didn't hear it first?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:33 |
Because otherwise it would be called Misp.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:32 |
 Snow Dog wrote:
Apparently it derives from the french pronunciation.
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OK apparently that wasn't too challenging, please explain why Mississippi has too many s's, i's, and p's, in it's name... 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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el böthy
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:24 |
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It all depends on the genre.
When it comes to symphonic, it´s obvious UK is upfront. USA even is "behind" other countrys like Sweden, France and specially Italy. And the same can be said about Neo.
But if we take a genre like Avant garde, USA has always (along with France) been at the very top. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Toby Driver, FRANK ZAPPA, John Zorn, Mr Bungle...
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Gandalff
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:12 |
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Well, this thread flows by gravity, isn´t it?
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Rabid
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 12:56 |
You can't deny the fact :
Miles Davis influenced EVERYONE, in some way.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 07:10 |
Apparently it derives from the french pronunciation.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 07:00 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
cjgone wrote:
JLocke wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Black Oak Arkansas. |
This raises the question, why is Kansas pronounced kansas and Arkansas pronounced arkansaw? 
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I used to pronounce it Ar-kan-sas. In my defence I'm not American and I was very young. 
Until a few years back I pronounced paradigm as para-dij-em.
Edited by Snow Dog - August 10 2010 at 07:02
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 06:47 |
Snow Dog wrote:
cjgone wrote:
JLocke wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Black Oak Arkansas. |
This raises the question, why is Kansas pronounced kansas and Arkansas pronounced arkansaw?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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fuxi
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 04:21 |
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Most of my favorite prog bands are British (the classic ones) but it can't be denied that, at the moment, the U.S. (and various other countries) have a stronger prog scene than the U.K.
You might call Porcupine Tree or even Radiohead prog, and they're both British, but to me they seem mainstream rock bands that are obviously influenced by prog.
I just watched the ROMANTIC WARRIORS DVD, which convinced me that the U.S. prog scene is alive and kicking, with all those festivals on the East Coast and with bands like Deluge Grander.
The only U.K. prog band I'd really call outstanding these days is Big Big Train.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 06:33 |
cjgone wrote:
JLocke wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Black Oak Arkansas.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 06:31 |
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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It's like final argument, music equivalent of nuclear bomb. Simply Kansas.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my
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cjgone
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 00:16 |
JLocke wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Technical death metal <3.
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JLocke
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Posted: August 07 2010 at 23:45 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Edited by JLocke - August 07 2010 at 23:45
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The Quiet One
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Posted: August 07 2010 at 23:23 |
Epignosis wrote:
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 07 2010 at 23:08 |
cjgone wrote:
Kansas? |
Kansas.
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cjgone
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Posted: August 07 2010 at 22:50 |
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Kansas?
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Technical death metal <3.
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moshkito
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Posted: August 05 2010 at 15:49 |
Gandalff wrote:
To Dick Heath:
OK, maybe the foundation on Prog Rock is American, but main formers of Prog are from Great Britain.
To Epignosis:
OK, I´ll correct my opinion "I mean American bands are always behind." to "sometimes behind".
I have thought just about that:
Byrds - American answer to Beatles,
Astra - -"- -"- to Pink Floyd,
Tool - -"- -"- to Porcupine Tree,
Yezda Urfa - -"- -"- to Gentle Giant,
Starcastle - -"- -"- to Yes,
Blue Oyster Cult - -"- to Black Sabbath, etc.
Of course, somebody can tell that sometimes American bands were the first , but I mean it´s only exemption. |
Maybe we should go a bit further back and start listing bands that DID influence progressive music ... and make sure you make a decent list of the LA and SF bands ... and ... btw ... even John Lennon was quoted as saying that Frank Zappa was excellent and he loved the stuff ... so ... shall we try this again?
When you get done with the list ... let me know ... ohh, don't forget Santana ... it was quite progressive those first 3 albums ...
Which came first? The Chicken or the egg?
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