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valravennz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 20 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 2546 |
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I think she is very clever. She has the "now" pop generation eating out of her hands. She is the new Madonna. For the record, I like her for her achievement as a fashion icon and yes - her music is catchy and a perfect antidote to long sessions of progressive rock heaviness. Gaga rules!
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![]() "Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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Ain't she just another cultural icon of the post modern 'trash aesthetic' taken to it's logical conclusion?
i.e. expressing yourself sincerely is pretentious and naive so let's be knowingly insincere? She has nice eyes though... |
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catfood03 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 24 2009 Status: Offline Points: 785 |
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Madonna is still the best, but Lady Ga Ga is Goo Goo Good!
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Textbook ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
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BORED
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17964 |
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I know I am trolling.......but Lady Goo-goo Gaga, Pink, Stefani owe homage to Madonna
Yes/No?
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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"Goo goo gaa gaa gaa goo goo goo goo gaa gaa gaa." Talking Heads
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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I thought we all agreed on the forum not to talk of her anymore? Did I miss a meeting?
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Whoever posted this should really check Lene Lovich - because it sounds an awful lot like her. I won't bother reading all the pages in the thread, so I don't know if anyone posted this: Why it's time to stop paying attention to Lady Gaga |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Agree. I don't listen to much radio anymore. When I do it is usually news talk,NPR or locally owned not for profit radio station. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I have a hard time hating stuff I don't listen to. Move along, nothing to see here. Well her main thing is being a spectacle. Reminds me of the hair who lost his testicles. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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sydbarrett2010 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2010 Location: iran Status: Offline Points: 595 |
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i haaaaaaaaaaaattttttttteeeeeeeeeee her
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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And before Gwen Stefani came Missy Elliot. I don't see the point ... art is all about stealing, with the words of Pablo Picasso: Bad artists copy. Good artists steal. |
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Lozlan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
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I think Gaga is fantastic. She epitomizes pop counter-culture: she's her own stylist, and her costumage is designed by some of the most talented luminaries currently working in fashion. The costumes are, indeed, ridiculous, but that's entirely their point. The woman is a walking deconstruction machine, wholly post-modern.
I really don't perceive pop to be a lesser form of music. I've had plenty of people denigrate my personal preferences; as such, I go out of my way to assume the best of other people's tastes. Where Gaga is concerned, this isn't really difficult: there is a genius to refined pop, a genius wholly unaffected by the number of people involved in the production of a song. Honestly, I reject the template of the singer-songwriter. Somewhere along the way we decided that if someone doesn't write every note of their own music, they are somehow sub-artistic. Prior to The Beatles, the vast majority of music recorded by popular artists were not necessarily their own compositions. Judy Garland was not a songwriter, but she is remembered as one of the most influential singers of all time. If Gaga is not writing her own music, that does not detract from the quality of said music. As for other poptarts...I'm somewhat shocked to see Madonna being labeled as throwaway music. A great deal of what fantastic pop music is doing is addressing and deconstructing normative sexuality, something that Madonna pioneered. Bringing feminine sexuality to the fore, in a powerful and declarative manner, is a very legitimate means of social commentary/artistic expression. Madge was (and remains) a genius. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I've got 45 years on me and pop has long ago faded from my radar screen. I won't trash people who are though, I just have better things to do with my time.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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![]() ![]() As for Lady Gaga, I don't care for her at all. I'll stop talking now just in case I start ranting. ![]() |
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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You can say erection. It's ok. Christopher Walken can improve anything.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Good point indeed, because if two pieces are in two different raagas, there's no way one cannot tell them apart.
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Stonebolt ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 91 |
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You know I thought the same thing at first too. I thought she was just another Britney Spears. Of course the differences between the good stuff and the okay stuff are often so subtle, that people who don't like either won't be able to tell the difference.
Perhaps somebody who only listens to top 40 would pronounce Hawkwind and Pink Floyd to basically be the same, even though most prog heads would say Pink Floyd is better. Maybe the same dynamic is at play. Maybe people who reguarly listen to the radio would be able to explain what makes Lady Gaga different.
I think what really hammers this point home is this: I could never tell apart two pieces of indian classical music to save my life.
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Also, this:
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Welp, looks like I'm never going to have an e******n again.
/not sure how much of that word I can get away with on this forum |
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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