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Icarium
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 16:49 |
have anyone seen the music video for Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden, now that is one vierd music video that freaked me out first time seeing it.
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CPicard
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 14:55 |
I just watched the whole video. It's hilarious. I started laughing at the the third second. Lady Gaga is the master of parody, topping Shakira (who MUST be 100% comedy, I can't explain her videos and her songs in another way).
It looks like a "women in prison" flick, with a near-porn flavor, no class, only cliches for straight men who would have never met a lesbian or a bisexual woman in their life. Somewhere between "Oz", a bad-taste cartoon for "adults" and a poor take on John Waters' movies (without the humor and the intelligence), this video is not the "Thriller" of the 10's. If you think so, you also think that Green Day is better than the Clash.
And the music is barely average. Without her cosplay thing and her fame-celebrity-glamour-identity-blablabla so-called "intellectual" gibberish (Residents, anyone?), Lady Gaga would stay under the radar, drown in the sea of the everyday pop/dance mainstream. And if I want a singer who writes her own music, I listen to Melody Gardot or Android Lust.
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 12:14 |
Love it. All her videos are great, some of the best of our time. Seriously, not joking. Although I hope in the next one her and Beyonce get it on.
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The T
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 10:58 |
I rarely like music videos. Not even in prog metal or prog (I actually hate them). But what can I say, pop beats the crap out of other genres in their videos... And this one is entertaining. I don't think it means sh*t (with some exceptions like the declaration of estrogenism by La Germanotta) but it's kind of fun. The music is Pop. Don't come to a Lady Gaga video/song expecting key modulation, atonal harmonies or lightining-fast guitar solos.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 05:29 |
Dude, what the hell are we discussing nudity for? We are born free man and this whole censoring stuff is just a castration imposed by the post-modern society.
Flower Power man, flower power (but don't give me your gay sh*t  ).
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A Person
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 23:02 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
CCVP wrote:
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s. |
If you don't see the problem with a celebrity showing her vagina in a music video I don't know what to say. The reason she did it at all was because of the widespread rumors she's a hermaphrodite. |
Dude, if it not OK to show, why showing it? Besides, this doesn't proves she isn't a hermiphrodite. What if the pen0r was hidden inside the vagoo and we couldn't see it because of the censorship? It's a conspiracy man, a freaking conspiracy! |
It's not supposed to prove anything! It's a joke! People make jokes with fake censored nudity all the time! |
That's why I'm not keen on the whole censoring thing. 
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 23:00 |
CCVP wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
CCVP wrote:
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s. |
If you don't see the problem with a celebrity showing her vagina in a music video I don't know what to say. The reason she did it at all was because of the widespread rumors she's a hermaphrodite. |
Dude, if it not OK to show, why showing it? Besides, this doesn't proves she isn't a hermiphrodite. What if the pen0r was hidden inside the vagoo and we couldn't see it because of the censorship? It's a conspiracy man, a freaking conspiracy! |
It's not supposed to prove anything! It's a joke! People make jokes with fake censored nudity all the time!
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A Person
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 22:55 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
CCVP wrote:
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s. |
If you don't see the problem with a celebrity showing her vagina in a music video I don't know what to say. The reason she did it at all was because of the widespread rumors she's a hermaphrodite. |
I caught on to that when the guard says "Told ya she doesn't have a dick," which doesn't really have anything to do with the song or the video, besides the whole lesbian thing I guess.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 22:53 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
CCVP wrote:
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s. |
If you don't see the problem with a celebrity showing her vagina in a music video I don't know what to say. The reason she did it at all was because of the widespread rumors she's a hermaphrodite. |
Dude, if it not OK to show, why showing it? Besides, this doesn't proves she isn't a hermiphrodite. What if the pen0r was hidden inside the vagoo and we couldn't see it because of the censorship? It's a conspiracy man, a freaking conspiracy!
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 22:48 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
I'd vote for options 5 & 7 combined. I was also perplexed when I first saw it.
Too bad the music is awful. I mean, is this really the new Thriller? Thriller was a nice track that I liked even without the video. Same goes for a lot of successful pop before the last era of commercialism that started in the mid 90s.
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Thriller is a good comparison, I hadn't even thought of that, but Telephone is even stranger because the video seems to be unconnected to the lyrics, except for the weird mind control thing. And to be honest, I would rather watch Telephone than Thriller or Radio Ga Ga. I would say that "objectively" it is no more or less awful than pop music from any other period, but at least it's my kind of awful.
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I was thinking of taking a music class next semester (im an engineer) and I think reading that prompt just completely turned me off the idea |
That's a problem with gender studies, not music.
CCVP wrote:
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s. |
If you don't see the problem with a celebrity showing her vagina in a music video I don't know what to say. The reason she did it at all was because of the widespread rumors she's a hermaphrodite.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 22:22 |
Didn't knew Lady Gaga was this hawt. Her face sucks, but she has a great body.
On a side note, why is her vagoo cencored in this video? I only noticed it was uncovered due to the pixels and why the hell she had to show it if it would be cencored anyway? God, I sure hate that controversy that is not controverted culture that Madonna invented in the 80s.
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The T
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 21:05 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Lady Gaga 2012 |
I think she might be a better president than t hat other female candidate... (not Hillary...)  
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zappaholic
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 19:26 |
I went with option #1 because I am convinced that she is one of David Icke's infamous "Lizard People" who are in cahoots with the Illuminati and President Barry Hussein Sombrero Fartbama to take over the world and enslave all of humanity.
/watched about the first minute and a half to two minutes of the vid before it just became too freakin weird - didn't even get to the song, but if it's as obnoxious as "Pokerface" and "Paparazzi", then I'm not missing much
//"told you she didn't have a ..."
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 18:01 |
aapatsos wrote:
I prefer Radio GA-GA no vote
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 Me too. Still voted 'boobs' because I'm shallow. But on a more serious note, I agree that for a pop artist she is fairly good, not to mention the fact that she writes her own songs, which is a plus in my book. However, I find the video a bit too ostentatious. One can make a point in a different way. I understand she is eccentric and an artist but the line between eccentric art and poor taste is very thin. I don't agree with the mentality: if everybody else does it, why shouldn't I do it?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 16:13 |
Lady Gaga 2012
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Padraic
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 15:32 |
The T wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Well, I have consistently come out in defense of Lady Gaga's music, which I think is remarkably good pop,a dn I think this is a remarkably good video. There's a lot of controversy about it being offensive, but I think that is a bit silly. It's no more offensive than anything else out there. Should kids be watching it? No. But kids see lots of things they shouldn't and I think the impact on their fragile little minds is overstated.
What does it mean? Nothing, I think. It's eye candy and ear candy, with a Tarantino sensibility. Why does everything have to mean something?
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I agree 100% with everything here. |
I agree 100%
(with you two...   ) |
Witness the power of Lady GaGa!
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The T
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 15:13 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Well, I have consistently come out in defense of Lady Gaga's music, which I think is remarkably good pop,a dn I think this is a remarkably good video. There's a lot of controversy about it being offensive, but I think that is a bit silly. It's no more offensive than anything else out there. Should kids be watching it? No. But kids see lots of things they shouldn't and I think the impact on their fragile little minds is overstated.
What does it mean? Nothing, I think. It's eye candy and ear candy, with a Tarantino sensibility. Why does everything have to mean something?
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I agree 100% with everything here. |
I agree 100%
(with you two...   )
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 14:55 |
thellama73 wrote:
Well, I have consistently come out in defense of Lady Gaga's music, which I think is remarkably good pop,a dn I think this is a remarkably good video. There's a lot of controversy about it being offensive, but I think that is a bit silly. It's no more offensive than anything else out there. Should kids be watching it? No. But kids see lots of things they shouldn't and I think the impact on their fragile little minds is overstated.
What does it mean? Nothing, I think. It's eye candy and ear candy, with a Tarantino sensibility. Why does everything have to mean something?
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I agree 100% with everything here.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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thellama73
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 14:19 |
Well, I have consistently come out in defense of Lady Gaga's music, which I think is remarkably good pop,a dn I think this is a remarkably good video. There's a lot of controversy about it being offensive, but I think that is a bit silly. It's no more offensive than anything else out there. Should kids be watching it? No. But kids see lots of things they shouldn't and I think the impact on their fragile little minds is overstated.
What does it mean? Nothing, I think. It's eye candy and ear candy, with a Tarantino sensibility. Why does everything have to mean something?
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Posted: March 25 2010 at 13:56 |
I prefer Radio GA-GA no vote
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