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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 10:50 |
The T wrote:
Really... and all of you are talking about how bad some threads are....A thread where you only talk about other threads is always much worse and more useless than any other thread, even one of those "Genesis vs Yes" ones...
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Just a bit of fun, really.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 10:44 |
Really... and all of you are talking about how bad some threads are....
A thread where you only talk about other threads is always much worse and more useless than any other thread, even one of those "Genesis vs Yes" ones...
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 05:13 |
Has anyone else ever wondered what Rush would have sounded like, if Emerson Lake & Palmer had written all the songs, and played all the instruments?
It keeps me awake at night, as does fretting over which of my favourite prog singers would best be able to survive in the jungle, armed only with a biro, and one Pot Noodle. This week, I think its Peter Hammill..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Points: 19643
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 04:28 |
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All of the 'nu-prog'/'new prog'/'new sub-genre to force every post-1990 band together' threads are also pretty ridiculous. Not content wise, but I remember Dean posted the links to all of the threads in one of them, and there was like 11 or something ridiculous.
+ its a stupid idea.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 03:19 |
Why dont women like prog? I mean, what is their major damage here? All they seem to want to do is dance, have fun and sleep with good looking interesting guys, who make them feel good about themselves! I just cant work them out. The other week my girlfriend dumped me after I arranged a surprise Mars Volta seminar for her, exploring the hidden meanings in all the endless horrible noise that makes up most of Frances the Mute.
I guess some people just dont understand...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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jplanet
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Joined: August 30 2006
Location: NJ
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Points: 799
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 01:06 |
I agree that it is generally good forum etiquette to wake up an older thread, and maybe a gentle debriefing that the chosen topic has become something of a joke - when done in good humor and reminding the new member that they are welcome - rather than mocking, which tends to fly under the radar of the Rule #2 you pointed out...
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
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Points: 16715
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 00:52 |
You should only be repeating a discussion if you think you can add something new to it. You are not adding anything to new to a fantasy supergroup discussion by creating it again. Alternatively, you should resurrect the old thread about something, we don't lock old posts.
jplanet wrote:
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
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2. No Personal attacks (flaming or trolling). Keep it civil, show respect at all times for your fellow members. Disagreement, debate, even "heated" discussion is fine (though emoticons should be used to "soften" the effect of words). However, personally directed insults, denigration, etc. will not be tolerated, and will be grounds for warning and, if not stopped immediately, ejection. This applies equally to forum posts AND private messages. "Group-directed" insults and denigration (e.g., racism, sexism, ageism, etc.) also fall under this category, any such behavior will be taken on a case by case basis. Any member who engages in continuous baiting, borderline insults, or other continuously "aggressive" behaviour will be warned. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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jplanet
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 21:01 |
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
Edited by jplanet - December 16 2009 at 21:03
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mrcozdude
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Joined: July 25 2007
Location: Devon,UK.
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Points: 2078
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 20:51 |
jplanet wrote:
Yeah, I don't buy the b.s. about searching for threads before starting one. As debrewguy pointed out, they weren't involved in the old thread...the point is being in a discussion, and being in one that is current, not just making sure it's been discussed...the forum is a place to interact, there are plenty of areas of PA that are databases designed to store unique bits of data.
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Yeah exactly.The actual thought is completely dumb.
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LiquidEternity
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 07 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 900
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 16:10 |
Any poll that does not have Frank Zappa as an option. Answering Frank Zappa on any prog related poll is like answering Jesus any time in Sunday school--even if it's not the answer they're looking for, no one can really tell you you're wrong. Any thread suggesting Faith No More that gets shot down in two posts, especially if there are any comparisons to the Beastie Boys. Any "polls" in the polls section that require you to actually answer rather than simply clicking on an option. Seriously, who has time to type out which one they prefer?
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jplanet
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 16:10 |
Yeah, I don't buy the b.s. about searching for threads before starting one. As debrewguy pointed out, they weren't involved in the old thread...the point is being in a discussion, and being in one that is current, not just making sure it's been discussed...the forum is a place to interact, there are plenty of areas of PA that are databases designed to store unique bits of data.
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The Runaway
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Joined: May 28 2009
Location: London
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Points: 3144
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 15:41 |
Green Shield Stamp wrote:
Which do you prefer prog or large breasts? |
Only if the breasts jiggle in 15/4 (Siberian Khatru and On Reflection = win)
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debrewguy
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Joined: April 30 2007
Location: Canada
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 15:39 |
I think asking a visitor to check out what has been discussed previously is a bit much. That's like walking into a big party and being told that before you start any conversation with anyone, find out what has been mentioned by whom and whether there is still anything left to say. Unless,of course, someone is proposing to set up an easy to use user-friendly index referencing all subjects. The search function isn't always helpful , ex. who is better Bach Beethoven or Bachman Turner Overdrive ? vs is Bach better than Beethoven or even Bachman Turner Overdrive ? Or = why aren't BTO here ?
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Toaster Mantis
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
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Points: 5898
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 15:10 |
jplanet wrote:
What do you expect new members to do, read every single thread ever started on the site before they post anything? It seems like people get annoyed far too easily. A symptom of being on the internet too much is when the frustrations of daily life start to get taken out on anonymous strangers online.
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No, but they can go search the forum's archives for old discussions which might contain the information they're looking for. This isn't one of those forums where a thread gets deleted after a couple of months. As for the question posed by the thread starter? I'd be more than happy to see a moratorium on threads whining about how progressive rock isn't as popular as it was in the early 1970s, and discussions of exactly what progressive rock is. Odds are high that'd result in the posting shrinking to a third of its current, but hey... quality above quantity, isn't that what they say?
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 15:08 |
memowakeman wrote:
Suggest new bands and artists: A Perfect Circle, The Smashing Pumpkins, Bjork or those artists who have been suggested and rejected several times....
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I've been thinking we could have a "PA Rejects" category for rejected artists/bands. (and perhaps one for those that were just unaccepted over a long time called "Lost in the Shuffle"). That would be fun. It could even have subcategories such as "Shockingly unprog", "Most Laughable Suggestions", "Kinda Prog" (but not Prog enough in our opinion), "Bounce" for those that got bounced around teams but were ultimately dismissed", and "Limbo Prog" (agreed it was Prog but couldn't reach a consensus on which sub-genre it would best fit) and "WTF is this?"
Edited by Logan - December 16 2009 at 15:10
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Green Shield Stamp
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Joined: February 17 2009
Location: Telford, UK
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Points: 933
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 14:53 |
Which do you prefer prog or large breasts?
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Haiku
Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 14:48 |
jplanet wrote:
What do you expect new members to do, read every single thread ever started on the site before they post anything?
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Yeah, it beats being having the crap kicked out of you to join a gang. (I believe the term is jumped in) Actually, all I want is for new members to use search and add their wisdom to any existing thread.
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 16 2009 at 14:52
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 14:48 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
"ELP vs Devo" or any equally absurd comparsion. |
Devo every time...
Oops sorry got carried away.
I do remember the Led Zep v Beatles thread
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Help me I'm falling!
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memowakeman
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 14:44 |
Suggest new bands and artists: A Perfect Circle, The Smashing Pumpkins, Bjork or those artists who have been suggested and rejected several times....
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Follow me on twitter @memowakeman
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ClemofNazareth
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Joined: August 17 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 14:09 |
"ELP vs Devo" or any equally absurd comparsion.
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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