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Points: 66582 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2009 at 13:04
Watchtower are a Houston Texas band that were part of the same stable with King's X and the Galactic Cowboys, and they all played a similar style of metal with progressive leanings. 
 
I'd concur a bit with Metallica's Ride The Lightning, as well.  At least, it was the first of its kind that I ever heard, and it does pre-date the Watchtower album.
 
Watchtower's singer went on to perform with the Dangerous Toys, with such spectacular songs as Sportin' A Woody. LOL
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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2009 at 12:43
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.



This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

-Jeff
 
I fully agree with Jeff here. I saw the headline of the thread and instantly thought of this album.
That makes 3 of us then, and well put Jeff.
That makes 4 of us now Jeff... LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

I completely forgot Watchtower's debut, shame on me... I always thought Energetic Disasasembly was released in 1986 but that's utterly wrong...Embarrassed

Indeed a worth-listening album which has not received the proper attention if you ask me


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I concur also. f**king great album as well.
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Points: 7411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 23:17
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

wasnt the first prog metal SONG King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man"? (1969). i would call it that.

You make a compelling argument!  Fripp's distorted chords certainly raised the bar for later metal. 

I was thinking of Captain Beyond and their first LP, but nobody has mentioned them yet....Iron Butterfly with Ryno Reinhardt and Lee Dorman certainly had a progressive metal quality also.  

Good topic, thanks!
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Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.



This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

-Jeff
 
I fully agree with Jeff here. I saw the headline of the thread and instantly thought of this album.
That makes 3 of us then, and well put Jeff.
That makes 4 of us now Jeff... LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

I completely forgot Watchtower's debut, shame on me... I always thought Energetic Disasasembly was released in 1986 but that's utterly wrong...Embarrassed

Indeed a worth-listening album which has not received the proper attention if you ask me


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Points: 3196 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 16:24
I'll get shot for this, but I've always found the first Prog Metal album to be... Ride The Lightning. Embarrassed
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 15:52
wasnt the first prog metal SONG King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man"? (1969). i would call it that.
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Points: 6797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 07:52
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

this is the first prog metal album (from 1969):

 
Ha Ha ....Nice...very nice.  Thanks Bald jean for the pointerBig smile
 
It's on Spotify by the way if anyone cares to listen!
 
No real comment to make as I'm not a prog-metal afficionado! 
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

this is the first prog metal album (from 1969):

I will probably have to check then...Wink
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.



This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

-Jeff
 
I fully agree with Jeff here. I saw the headline of the thread and instantly thought of this album.
That makes 3 of us then, and well put Jeff.
That makes 4 of us now Jeff... LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

I completely forgot Watchtower's debut, shame on me... I always thought Energetic Disasasembly was released in 1986 but that's utterly wrong...Embarrassed

Indeed a worth-listening album which has not received the proper attention if you ask me
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 05:02
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

this is the first prog metal album (from 1969):

 
And this is the first stoner rock album :
 (1968)
 
 
 
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 04:59
^ I certainly saw this coming ... Wink

Edited by Mr ProgFreak - October 04 2009 at 04:59
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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 04:36
this is the first prog metal album (from 1969):


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Points: 183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 03:50
never heard of watchtower but am intrigued. 
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 03:34
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.



This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

-Jeff
 
I fully agree with Jeff here. I saw the headline of the thread and instantly thought of this album.
That makes 3 of us then, and well put Jeff.
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Points: 3073 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 02:19
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Rage for Order was 1986, but 1985 had a few albums that were key in the formation of prog metal. The be honest, I don't find Rage for Order to even be that progressive. My vote goes for Watchtower's Energetic Disassembly.



This 1985 album was the first prog metal album ever IMO. It contained complexity and variety, and it is certainly not the type of metal you just bang your head to. I think Queensryche played a key role in the formation of prog metal, but this is the first actual prog metal album.

-Jeff
 
I fully agree with Jeff here. I saw the headline of the thread and instantly thought of this album.


Edited by UMUR - October 04 2009 at 02:21
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Points: 65578 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2009 at 00:34
the Watchtower album is a good call..  English band Automatic Fine Tuning, though not necessarily metal by today's standards, released their breakthrough debut in 1976 with possibly the first true tech-guitar rock album

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I agree that Queensryche was the first real prog metal band. I think that The Warning would get my vote for very first prog metal album. I don't think that the electronic or avant-garde elements are essential to create prog metal. That said, I still think these elements were somewhat present on The Warning.
 
Just listen to N M 156, for example, if you doubt me Wink


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