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harmonium.ro
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 17:38 |
I like all,
Greeks gave us epic poetry, philosophy, history, music theory, the democratic system and they had great artists.
The Romans also had artists just as good, but they had better architects: they invented mortar, the arch, the vault, the dome. They projected and implemented vital stuff like the aquaducts, viaducts, stadiums. They had a great knowledge on how to run a state (but had a lot of terrible emperors) and they left us with Roman Law. Also their language stands at the foundation of a lot of modern languages.
The French shown a lot of style, and later even had some great artists. The women in Paris and France in general are the most beautiful I've ever seen.
The English had Rock, Prog and English Humour, so they win.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 16:39 |
That's such a hard question. I'll give it to England for the invention of the black pudding.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 16:25 |
I'd put Greece and Rome on pretty even footing. But Greece did a lot of things first whereas the Romans copied them and improved on their ideas. So Greece it is.
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aapatsos
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 13:52 |
I voted fro Greece beacause I am Greek - I did not bother to think (this is a completely unbiased response )
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 13:42 |
Teeth? Yes I know we have dodgy teeth, agreed. Thats cos we've got more important things to think about than what our smiles look like. I notice the questioner didn't even concider the USA in his list.
The roads. Oh yes the roads.
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 13:12 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
England of course hahaha. I can here my neighbours (Scots, Welsh etc) just seething with rage over this question! Ha ha! Anyway the Brits invented : Prog, Football (The original not what the Americans laughingly call football) (The one EVERYBODY else plays), the sandwich, TV, etc Oh and Cricket ha ha. What did the Romans do for us? | But have you seen their teeth?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 12:54 |
England of course hahaha. I can here my neighbours (Scots, Welsh etc) just seething with rage over this question! Ha ha! Anyway the Brits invented : Prog, Football (The original not what the Americans laughingly call football) (The one EVERYBODY else plays), the sandwich, TV, etc Oh and Cricket ha ha. What did the Romans do for us?
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 09:32 |
If by Italy you mean Rome too, then its an obvious choice. Rome and its memory has always conditioned life and culture in Europe.
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:32 |
Greece, if only because they got 90% of civilized society right, and then we spent the next 2000 years f**king it up and rebuilding it.
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KoS
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 01:45 |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:28 |
Erm... Italy, France and England are all, to differing extents, pieces of the Roman Empire. Some were peripheral, others were central. The development of modern nation states in these zones is fairly recent (mere centuries), and if we rewind 1,500 years, the British isles consists of a slew of warring tribes, France consists of Franks and other tribes and Italy just barely saw the end of the Roman Empire at the hands of the Goths. Ultimately, I think you should've broken this up into two questions: which ancient civilization did more, and which modern one do you see as most important.
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crimson87
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:28 |
I don't know , the US embraced all this cultures and are impotant since the beggining of the XX century. They took everything to a bigger scale that's for sure. Major culture providers in the moment that cant be argued for good or bad.
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:20 |
USA! USA! USA!
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crimson87
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:17 |
And by important I mean whose achievements and legacy have been KEY components of the western civilization.
I think it's Italy. The romans embraced Ancient Greece's legacy and spread it all over his Empire. Plus they were masters of goverment ( for the time) and codified laws that still up to this day are taught in universities. Then you have in the pre Renaissence period , they developed modern cities and established modern trade routes , as well as finance sistems. Documents like letters of trade were developed in Firenze and Venice. They almost gave the kickoff to capitalism. First medical university was italian ( Salerno). Then you have the Renaissence period which was started in Italy and then spread all over Europe.
On top of that , columbus was italian
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