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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:41
They usually do one cover a night: Floyd and Rush are common but Metallica, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, Michael Jackson, etc.....
 
Heavy Prog would actually be more appropriate than J/F as Mars Volta are over there and have some similar sensibilities.
 
Xover, Heavy, Eclectic (my 1st choice) seem to be candidates.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:37
cool.. thanks man Clap..  just wanted to make sure there wasn't something that we haven't heard that explains where they are at.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:30
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

pssst... for fans of the group...  what makes this group J-R/F.Which albums?   Listening to an album now... and this seems textbook Xover prog.  Or whatever.. .but this sounds nothing like J-R in my opinion... and make it two.. Raff's as well.


i have stated many times these guys should be moved to eclectic.

Local Band Does O.K. is their only studio album that showcases their jazzy side a lot. Anchor Drops does as well, but not as much. The last 3 studio albums of theirs has focused more on composition and are much "proggier", especially the most recent "Mantis"

they also have many "live-only" songs, one being Wizard Burial Ground, which is straight-up THRASH METAL! and Bridgeless, which is really proggy in a DT-kind of way. Or Much Obliged which is jazz-funk, with a little bit of TFK-feel during the verses.

Even their live performances are more on the eclectic side (though they do get pretty jazzy too.) They're too diverse to be just jazz-rock. Listen or download the show i went to Saturday night in NYC and you'll see (or hear) what i mean.

set 1
http://www.archive.org/details/4-11-2009UmphreysMcgee-NokiaTheatreNewYorkNy

set 2
http://www.archive.org/details/4-11-2009UmphreysMcgee-Set2-NokiaTheatreNewYorkNykm40-128kbps

i dont think they would even consider themselves jazz-rock. There's too many rock riffs, progressive passages, VOCALS, non-jazz compositions, etc.

i say they should be moved to ECLECTIC PROG.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:25
When we started listening to the album, I immediately realised it was not JR/F, but much closer to Crossover. Unfortunately, neither of us is an expert on the band, so - until we have access to some more material - we will have to rely on other people's opinion.

BTW, Jay, I finally managed to find your thread (where I had posted), and also Darkshade's thread on the same subject. Hopefully they'll be moved as soon as possible, because I get this idea they are seriously misplaced...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:24
anywhere sort of RIO seems better than JR/F.. especially if Mantis is the most proggy???? whoa...I thought it might have been a step back.. proggy wise. 

I'll set the wheels in motion for this... thanks Jay Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:20
Jazz-Rock Fusion does not seem right to me either and in fact I opened a thread a few months back for moving them to eclectic. The problem is that no one seems to know where to put them. The new one, Mantis is by far the most prog-gy and their live shows (for which they're known) venture more into fusion jamming. I think they are a good eclectic candidate, although crossover isn't totally out of line either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 14:01
pssst... for fans of the group...  what makes this group J-R/F.Which albums?   Listening to an album now... and this seems textbook Xover prog.  Or whatever.. .but this sounds nothing like J-R in my opinion... and make it two.. Raff's as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2009 at 12:30
WHAT? they played the entire Mantis album last night? now i have no idea nwhat to expect tonight!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2009 at 12:26
pretty jealous of you, darkshade

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SET 2 Jazz Odyssey > Made to Measure > Preamble > Mantis, Cemetery Walk, Cemetery Walk II, Turn & Run > "Jimmy Stewart" > Turn & Run > Spires, Prophecy Now > Red Tape > 1348

ENCORE Comfortably Numb

pretty cool...they performed Mantis, in sequence (with improv), 2nd set in NYC last night.

(for the uninitiated, Jazz Odyssey opening a set is a piece of improv/short composition...in last night's case it was a repeated JO that has opened 2 other shows...I'm personally hoping it develops into a song. here's an mp3 of an audience recording of a performance of this JO: http://www.archive.org/download/um2009-03-04.ccm4/um2009-03-04d1t01_vbr.mp3
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2009 at 13:41
Enjoy your show man....I anticipate a great time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2009 at 13:25
1 more day!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 17:59
3 more days!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 22:53
ernie banks on pa, now I know I am tripping
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 16:32
^I saw them Saturday in Baltimore. They started off with Jajunk and finished off an otherworldly first set with Can't You Hear Me Knocking. The second set featured Divisions, Turn and Run, Cemetary Walk among others. A nice blend of old and new which was nice. Get ready for an amazing show!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 16:26
anyone going to see them April 10 or 11 at Nokia Theater in NYC?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 19:53
YES! Wizard Burial Ground is AWESOME!!!!!

this is a great little prog compilation, showcasing their proggier side. i wouldve included Bridgeless, Much Obliged, Nothing Too Fancy, and Jajunk Pt. I & II as well. Those, plus the ones above, are some of their most progressive songs pre-Mantis. Great selection!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 12:48
downloading right now. i could always use more live Umphrey's, even though it's from different shows.

great band!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2009 at 12:08


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2009 at 10:56
Thanks!!!!  Going to see them on April 7th.  Cant wait.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 23:02
I downloaded the prog stuff and since I had to sign in, I looked at the show I went to....
 
So I downloaded Shine On and then went looking for other cool covers....ended up with a nice album's worth:
 
Shine On Crazy Diamond
Time (obvious second choice)
YYZ
Hot For Teacher (intro solo accurate so....)
And Justice for All (surely you're kidding...no)
Song Remains the Same
War Pigs
Fool in the Rain
 
 
It's virtually the set list from one of my former bands......wooohoooo.
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