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CCVP
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Posted: March 14 2009 at 13:00 |
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Well, OK then. Everyone has an unique taste after all . . .
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 14 2009 at 12:53 |
CCVP wrote:
MrEdifus wrote:
CCVP wrote:
MrEdifus wrote:
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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I have not heard an album from Dream Theater that I would consider to be outright bad. When Dream And Day Unite, Falling Into Infinity, and Train Of Thought are the worst Dream Theater releases to me, but I would still say all three are worthy of three stars.
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IMO, the only average DT album is Falling into Infinity. All others are great. A lot of people talk about how much When Dream And Day Unite sucks, but i actually think it is a great album, better than some of the band's recent releases, like Train of Thought and Systematic Chaos.
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I actually LOVED Systematic Chaos myself, it's a 5-star album to me. If Dream Theater ever had (or needed- yeah, right) a "return to form," that was it.
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You have got to be kidding me. Systematic Chaos isn't nearly as good as Awake, I&W, Scenes or Six Degrees. Good, but far, VERY FAR from perfect. IMO, DT needs to stop touring and stop recording for a wile before hitting the studio once again. I mean, they should do like they did in the past: get in studio with ideas, with some kind of material instead of starting from scratch. More material means more options, more possibilities. That is why Images and Words and Scenes from a Memory are so amazing: they had a f***kload of material to work on.
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No, I'm not kidding you. I rank Systematic Chaos 2nd behind Awake. Excellent songwriting, very tasteful, yet bursting with proficiency, and a dark, heavy mood that is simultaneously very progressive. (Which, incidentally, is about how I'd describe Awake as well.)
Edited by MrEdifus - March 14 2009 at 12:53
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CCVP
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Posted: March 14 2009 at 12:48 |
MrEdifus wrote:
CCVP wrote:
MrEdifus wrote:
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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I have not heard an album from Dream Theater that I would consider to be outright bad. When Dream And Day Unite, Falling Into Infinity, and Train Of Thought are the worst Dream Theater releases to me, but I would still say all three are worthy of three stars.
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IMO, the only average DT album is Falling into Infinity. All others are great. A lot of people talk about how much When Dream And Day Unite sucks, but i actually think it is a great album, better than some of the band's recent releases, like Train of Thought and Systematic Chaos.
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I actually LOVED Systematic Chaos myself, it's a 5-star album to me. If Dream Theater ever had (or needed- yeah, right) a "return to form," that was it.
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You have got to be kidding me. Systematic Chaos isn't nearly as good as Awake, I&W, Scenes or Six Degrees. Good, but far, VERY FAR from perfect. IMO, DT needs to stop touring and stop recording for a wile before hitting the studio once again. I mean, they should do like they did in the past: get in studio with ideas, with some kind of material instead of starting from scratch. More material means more options, more possibilities. That is why Images and Words and Scenes from a Memory are so amazing: they had a f***kload of material to work on.
Edited by CCVP - March 14 2009 at 12:49
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Diaby
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Posted: March 14 2009 at 04:47 |
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people? |
Recent albums? Octavarium is five stars, Systematic Chaos is their worst so far, 2 stars. I simply feel it's gonna be good. However, I will might not have money to buy it as soon as possible, because the concert tickets were a bit expensive
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yeah
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 22:51 |
CCVP wrote:
MrEdifus wrote:
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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I have not heard an album from Dream Theater that I would consider to be outright bad. When Dream And Day Unite, Falling Into Infinity, and Train Of Thought are the worst Dream Theater releases to me, but I would still say all three are worthy of three stars.
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IMO, the only average DT album is Falling into Infinity. All others are great. A lot of people talk about how much When Dream And Day Unite sucks, but i actually thinks it is a great album, better than some of the band's recent releases, like Train of Thought and Systematic Chaos.
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I actually LOVED Systematic Chaos myself, it's a 5-star album to me. If Dream Theater ever had (or needed- yeah, right) a "return to form," that was it.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 22:25 |
MrEdifus wrote:
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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I have not heard an album from Dream Theater that I would consider to be outright bad. When Dream And Day Unite, Falling Into Infinity, and Train Of Thought are the worst Dream Theater releases to me, but I would still say all three are worthy of three stars.
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IMO, the only average DT album is Falling into Infinity. All others are great. A lot of people talk about how much When Dream And Day Unite sucks, but i actually thinks it is a great album, better than some of the band's recent releases, like Train of Thought and Systematic Chaos.
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 21:43 |
rpe9p wrote:
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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I have not heard an album from Dream Theater that I would consider to be outright bad. When Dream And Day Unite, Falling Into Infinity, and Train Of Thought are the worst Dream Theater releases to me, but I would still say all three are worthy of three stars.
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 21:42 |
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rpe9p
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 21:38 |
Out of curiosity, for the people who say they are really excited for this album, did you like their recent albums, have you heard things that make this album sound likely to be a return to form, or are you just really optimistic people?
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CCVP
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 20:07 |
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sleeper
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 19:41 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Train of Thought has their best cover art? |
Nope, I do as well. Looking forward to getting this on June 23rd.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 19:41 |
CCVP wrote:
MrEdifus wrote:
I will buy this the day it comes out, just like I did with Systematic Chaos. And I'm sure that once again, I will not be disappointed in the least.
There WILL be one more AA track, and my money's on The Shattered Fortress. Those tracks have always been good so far though.
The art looks good too, but I've thought that the art so far has all been great, with the exception of When Dream And Day Unite.
Now I've got TWO prog-metal albums to freak out over while waiting for!
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And what's the other one?
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Queensryche - American Soldier. I pre-ordered it the first day that it became available.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 19:34 |
MrEdifus wrote:
I will buy this the day it comes out, just like I did with Systematic Chaos. And I'm sure that once again, I will not be disappointed in the least.
There WILL be one more AA track, and my money's on The Shattered Fortress. Those tracks have always been good so far though.
The art looks good too, but I've thought that the art so far has all been great, with the exception of When Dream And Day Unite.
Now I've got TWO prog-metal albums to freak out over while waiting for!
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And what's the other one?
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CCVP
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 19:33 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Train of Thought has their best cover art? |
I think it rocks too. A damn mysterious and frightening cover art is always good
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MrEdifus
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 18:05 |
I will buy this the day it comes out, just like I did with Systematic Chaos. And I'm sure that once again, I will not be disappointed in the least.
There WILL be one more AA track, and my money's on The Shattered Fortress. Those tracks have always been good so far though.
The art looks good too, but I've thought that the art so far has all been great, with the exception of When Dream And Day Unite.
Now I've got TWO prog-metal albums to freak out over while waiting for!
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The T
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 17:27 |
As always, will buy it the day it comes out.
And I'm very hopeful.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 17:19 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Train of Thought has their best cover art? |
one of the better points of the album it is one of their better covers though
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 15:50 |
Am I the only one who thinks Train of Thought has their best cover art?
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www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 14:34 |
So far I prefer their early era(90's). And as far as I'm concerned, DT with Rudess is getting heavier and heavier....
I like the cover, surely the best from the Rudess era, and yes it reminds me off the ones of their 90's...
I'll wait for some reviews here, and see...
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darkshade
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Posted: March 13 2009 at 14:31 |
p0mt3 wrote:
For the most part, though . . . I'm hopeful. The first time in a long time I have actually anticipated a DT release. |
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